Healthy Homes Guarantee Act standards announced

[Perry]

There is such a thing, but I doubt that it's up to that standard.

[Bob Kane]

Now the much more practical question is how can people cope with heating all rooms etc?

I thought it was only heating the main living area?

[Spoook]

Yes, it is. "Have a heater that can heat the main living area to 18 degrees Celsius."
Just a thought, if the landlord chooses to fit a wall heater that could mean tenants having to re-organise their furniture to keep it away from the heat source. I see complaints on the horizon.

[Spoook]

It still has not been specified what type of rangehood. By law, bathroom fans need to be vented to outside air. No regulation in regards to rangehoods. (that I know of )

[Keys]

Have a wee look guys. Scroll down a little on this page.

[Keys]

Good GOD ! ! ! and, all of it has to be done within 90 days of a new tenancy. Oh! The joy.

[Perry]

What a b. nightmare of pointless and obtuse complexity.

[Spoook]

OK, I scrolled down......... was I meant to translate any of the article? :-O

I see an app on the horizon to just enter your room area and be told what to do.

[artemis]

ROFLMAO.

I hope the Minister will be willing to post out a copy of the Regulations to every landlord, just so they can also have a good laugh before putting their rentals on the market and spending their tax free gains.

[north shore]

I was reading the new requirements on the email from the Healthy Homes Team that they just sent to me. I made a submission so guessing thats why they sent it to me.
The fixed heating in the main living area, got me thinking about if we rented our house which has family/dining/kitchen as one then a separate lounge. Would it need one heater in the lounge, or one in the lounge and another in the family combined room I wonder?????
I have a friend with a similar set up, but they have no doors dividing their area up at all, it basically forms a very large circle.

[artemis]

North shore, the Regulations refer to 'main living room'. It is defined as the largest if more than one.

[north shore]

thanks Artemis.

[donna]

This one I find ridiculous:

Kitchens and bathrooms will be required to have extraction fans or range-hoods

If your bathroom only has a shower and it's got a shower-dome than that should cancel out that requirement. So will there be an assessment process so your property could be deemed exempt?

What I find interesting about the extraction fans requirement is - it's likely to cause more harm than good. If they're not installed probably they may cause leaks where they exit the exterior cladding. And there will be shoddy install jobs for sure! Leaky building anyone?

Plus what size does a fan need to be? And does it need to linked up to the light so it's automatic? If not, it will never be used.

One of our rentals is completely open plan and there's no way a small extractor fan will do anything useful.

I find the extractor fan requirement a joke! Also range-hoods, if they're not ducted to the outside they will are useless. Installing one of them is no small expense either and just like with the fans if they're not installed probably - expect leaks.

Also are there suppliers and installers that meet the Gov't requirements and fair pricing schedule? Or can we expect another rort with costs skyrocketing - make hay while the sun shines. Call me cynical but what's the bet the meth testers are setting up shop as we speak to jump on this bandwagon.

cheers,

Donna

[Perry]

I suspect that the "bailout rate" for LLs will be increasing, in the very near future.

Then Taxcindarella Tooth Fairy & Co will find Housing NZ costs to be something of an 'elephant in the room.'

Unreservedly - I hope it hurts the socialists more than they can imagine, in their worst nightmares.

[Learning]

Required heating capacity

The required heating capacity for a living room is to be calculated using the following formula:

h = [t + v + (f × 40) ] ÷ 1000,
Where t = [ d + (e × g) ] × (b − c),
d = (a more complicated formula I can't copy and paste),
e is a slightly shorter complicated formula
and v = w × y × z × (b − c)

h

is the required heating capacity for the living room (kW)

t

is the transmission heat loss of the living room (W) calculated under clause 3

v

is the ventilation heat loss of the living room (W) calculated under clause 4

f

is the area of the floor of the living room (m²).
d

is the transmission heat loss in respect of the living room’s building elements that are part of the tenancy building’s thermal envelope (W), calculated under subclause (2)

e

is the transmission heat loss in respect of the building elements that form the boundaries of the living room but are not part of the building’s thermal envelope (W), calculated under subclause (3)

g

is the temperature adjustment factor for building elements that are not part of the tenancy building’s thermal envelope, being 0.5

b

is the required internal temperature, being 18°C

c

is the assumed external temperature for the premises as set out in clause 5.
w

is the internal volume of the living room (m³)

y

is the assumed air change rate of the living room, being 1.0

z

is the assumed value for the density of air multiplied by the specific heat of air, being 0.34 Wh/m³K
+ a few more for the bits I couldn't copy and paste.

Anyone have a calculator and doctorate in mathematics I can borrow?

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2019/0088/latest/whole.html#LMS160629