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  • Tom Kirk
    Freshie
    • Mar 2017
    • 11

    #1

    New windows

    Hello,

    What do people recommend in terms of new windows. We currently have old metal framed ones, and live in Dunedin and I don't want to go through another winter with them haha.
  • jimO
    Fanatical
    • Sep 2011
    • 1763

    #2


    best windows you will get

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    • andyp2010
      Opinionated
      • Jan 2015
      • 188

      #3
      PVC everyday. Much better insulator than alu, won't rot or degrade, at least in our lifetimes. Also cheaper than alu quotes I got. NKwindows.co.nz

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      • jimO
        Fanatical
        • Sep 2011
        • 1763

        #4
        Originally posted by andyp2010 View Post
        PVC everyday. Much better insulator than alu, won't rot or degrade, at least in our lifetimes. Also cheaper than alu quotes I got. NKwindows.co.nz
        if you want cheap shite

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        • Tom Kirk
          Freshie
          • Mar 2017
          • 11

          #5
          Originally posted by jimO View Post
          if you want cheap shite
          Whats wrong with PVC? I've read that they seem to be the better than aluminum as they are a better insulator?

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          • Bobsyouruncle
            Banned
            • Apr 2016
            • 2340

            #6
            There is a debate on PT currently about double glazed windows and PVC versus timber or aluminium. A minority think PVC is better but if you do some research globally they are not considered to last as long. Aluminium is the "best" although to get thermally broken double glazed is expensive. PVC has had, and continues to have issues with quality control resulting in warping and other things plastic does. I wouldn't touch it myself.

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            • jimO
              Fanatical
              • Sep 2011
              • 1763

              #7
              Originally posted by Bobsyouruncle View Post
              There is a debate on PT currently about double glazed windows and PVC versus timber or aluminium. A minority think PVC is better but if you do some research globally they are not considered to last as long. Aluminium is the "best" although to get thermally broken double glazed is expensive. PVC has had, and continues to have issues with quality control resulting in warping and other things plastic does. I wouldn't touch it myself.
              what he said

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              • Tom Kirk
                Freshie
                • Mar 2017
                • 11

                #8
                Originally posted by jimO View Post
                what he said
                Thanks for that info bobsyouruncle.

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                • Bobsyouruncle
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 2340

                  #9
                  For me it's the uncertainty. The source of the raw materials has huge ramifications on quality. Google it yourself you'll find people in NZ and all over the world who are having issues after 3 to 5 years. Then plenty of people are having no issues after 20. With Aluminium nobody has any issues pretty much ever because Ali doesn't melt, warp or degrade generally. So why risk PVC?

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                  • Tom Kirk
                    Freshie
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 11

                    #10
                    Got a quote from nulook in Dunedin (11 windows in a 90sqm house),

                    $13666 for frames double glaze and install + $1472 low e + argon gas + $1834 thermal broken suit.

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                    • Learning
                      Fanatical
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1142

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bobsyouruncle View Post
                      For me it's the uncertainty. The source of the raw materials has huge ramifications on quality. Google it yourself you'll find people in NZ and all over the world who are having issues after 3 to 5 years. Then plenty of people are having no issues after 20. With Aluminium nobody has any issues pretty much ever because Ali doesn't melt, warp or degrade generally. So why risk PVC?
                      With everything you get what you pay for. We paid for German made, stainless steal framed, UPVC. Cheaper than locally made thermally broken alumin. After 5 years still very happy and, at this moment, would never go back to alumin. Will it still be as good in another 20 years? I'll let you know. 😁

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                      • Bobsyouruncle
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 2340

                        #12
                        Which is exactly why I wouldn't use them learning. IN 20, 30,50 years I know the Ali windows will be perfect still. No need to wonder.

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                        • Learning
                          Fanatical
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1142

                          #13
                          Ive seen some pretty cruddy looking ail frames after 20-30 years. Pitted and corroded.

                          It's the same risk buying any new technology. The latest smart phone or window frames. Time will tell if the next is better than the last.

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                          • Bobsyouruncle
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 2340

                            #14
                            Tru dat!!!!!!

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                            • donna
                              Administrator
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 10076

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Learning View Post
                              With everything you get what you pay for. We paid for German made, stainless steal framed, UPVC. Cheaper than locally made thermally broken alumin. After 5 years still very happy and, at this moment, would never go back to alumin. Will it still be as good in another 20 years? I'll let you know. 
                              What's the name of the German business please? We've been recommended this Indian brand Fenestra uPVC

                              We're building new so we want the most reliable, functional for Kapiti (within 1km from the beach)

                              cheers,

                              Donna
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