About Property tutors (tutoring program)

[bon333]

Dont waste you're money

Read a few forums on here and you'll get real world advice and experience.

So, do you think that just buy a book that guide to buy investment property should be enough then just pay nearly 10k for tutoring fees.?

[halfempty]

Are any of the people who have replied here clients of theirs?

[damage]

So, do you think that just buy a book that guide to buy investment property should be enough then just pay nearly 10k for tutoring fees.?

Have a look at some books or even a Property Investment Magazine
The thing with the books is that they give you theory about what to do. The hard part is doing it and finding the right property.

Good luck

[Neongreen]

bon333:
Read these forums, look around on trademe, crunch the numbers, do your homework, chat to others, read a few books on the basics.

As opposed to paying $10k, and then having to do the above anyway.

[damage]

http://www.propertytalk.com/forum/showthread.php?22210-Sean-Wood-Don-Ha-Property-Tutors-new-Richmastery-wannabes

More interesting reading from a few years ago

[speights boy]

Are any of the people who have replied here clients of theirs?

No half, it appears not.

It is rather surprising none of the 60 million club are long term PTers prepared to post a glowing testimonial.

[halfempty]

Not really...

There's about 25,000 landlords in NZ, 10,951 or so people are members of PT, lets assume at least a few are (ahem) double ups.

I'd say there are maybe 3,000 active members which isn't really that much when you think about it.

Then if there was a group of people doing 60 mill in deals they would probably be rather busy....

1/2

[donna]

Yes active members make up about 10 percent of actual total visitors so we get over 30,000 people (NZ 97 - 98%) to PropertyTalk each month, and 60,000 visits so on average each visitor comes back twice during the month.

cheers,

Donna

[PropertyTutors]

Possibly from the $25K mentoring fees? Or maybe margins on the properties they onsell to their students?

Hi Robin, your assertion about what we do is very wrong.

We want you and everybody else to understand, quite clearly, that PropertyTutors do not sell properties to our students and are not going to, it's not in our business model, we are more strategic than that.

Steve Starke
General Manager
PropertyTutors Limited

[PropertyTutors]

No half, it appears not.

It is rather surprising none of the 60 million club are long term PTers prepared to post a glowing testimonial.

Good morning speights boy

Firstly, many of our clients do not spend time on PropertyTalk.

I have considered, many times, asking students to post here or respond to varying misdirections and misstatements about what we do.

But in the end, there are simply too many anonymous knockers here - and I simply aren't going to ask our clients to do this, only to have pies thrown at them for their honest efforts.

Because unfortunately, that will be the most common result. You know it, I know it, the moderators know it, and so do all of the regular posters here. We have all seen, too many times, that the most popular threads of the day involve lots of the pie-throwing.

We do have a lot of student support, many of them willingly give of their own time to explain their successes to others at events, or webinars etc.

One of the things I take most satisfaction from, is seeing the consistently helpful student interaction in our groups, the exponential learning they get from their own interactions, and the support the "older" heads give the newbies, just as you see in any other learning collective/institution, with a sound supportive culture.

So in other words, our students are often very happy to give testimonials, in a real world, positively interacting environment.

The best place to see this is either on our YouTube channel or our Successes page, either of which are easily accessible from the front page of our website.

Or come along to one of our events and ask the students yourself, face to face.

Then you (or any other reader) will be able to ask them directly, any questions you may have about what we do and how it works for them.

Cheers

Steve Starke
General Manager
PropertyTutors Limited

[damage]

Steve, Thanks for taking the time to reply

I guess it comes down too, - whats in it for you as a Property Tutor, how do you make your money.

While you may say that you dont sell directly, do you pass on appropriate contacts within the industry from which you then get a commission or some other consideration?

Also, with that spreadsheet you posted. It seems fictional

For example your property at Archboyd was bought for $280k, it had no money spent on it, yet its "estimated valuation" is now $380k
It would appear you've just made this up.

[donna]

Steve, Thanks for taking the time to reply

I guess it comes down too, - whats in it for you as a Property Tutor, how do you make your money.

While you may say that you dont sell directly, do you pass on appropriate contacts within the industry from which you then get a commission or some other consideration?

A lot of speculation there Damage - your approach is typical "guilty until proven innocent". PropertyTutors do not have to prove they are 'innocent' - you have been told they do not sell property they 'mentor' and that's what's in it for them.

There are some dodgy property promoters out there - and Shane D sums it up nicely here - how about spending some of your time considering the 'damage' these people are potentially going make flogging US properties to Kiwis.

cheers,

Donna

[TheLiberalLeft]

Hi Steve,

Regarding the comment "The best place to see this is either on our YouTube channel or our Successes page, either of which are easily accessible from the front page of our website"... can you confirm whether these links proceed to any person who in any way criticises your organisation?

I suspect they do not. People with genuine enquiries do not want a one-sided story. They wish to hear the good & the bad, which is completely reasonable on their part. To suggest that the 'bad' are simply "anonymous knockers" to be ignored is rather presumptious on your part.

Rgds

TLL

PS. I kind of like the odd anonymous knocker, but that's a whole other story.

[damage]

A lot of assumptions there Damage - your approach is typical "guilty until proven innocent". PropertyTutors do not have to prove they are 'innocent' - you have been told they do not sell property they 'mentor' and that's what's in it for them.

There are some dodgy property promoters out there - and Shane D sums it up nicely here - how about spending some of your time considering the 'damage' these people are potentially going make flogging US properties to Kiwis.

cheers,

Donna

Thanks Donna.

To me they both do "damage"

[donna]

It's not hard to work out this thread was started to take the heat off the US properties thread I started. A nice wee diversion of attention - that is misguided and it's a shame a lot of us are falling for it in my humble opinion.

The big evil is the 'property promoters' coming here and seeing us as a soft touch - and some posters in this thread (who are anonymous) don't seem too concerned with that though - umm why is that? Talk about blinded by their own blinkers.



cheers,

Donna