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  • SuperDad
    Hamilton Event Organiser
    • Apr 2006
    • 4015

    #1

    New Zealand Institute of Investment Property Educators

    Anyone noticed that PropertyTutors is running a text banner ad at the moment?

    Click on the ad and you are taken through to a promo for an upcoming event, which features a photo of a beaming Sean Wood above an official looking logo proclaiming him to be a member of the "New Zealand Institute of Property Investment Educators".

    Sounds impressive?

    The "institute" is a company (New Zealand Institute of Investment Property Educators Limited), the director of which is Steve Starke, General Manager of Property Tutors. PropertyTutors Limited owns a 33% shareholding in the "institute".

    Moral of the story: Beware of fancy sound titles which are designed to make people (or their products/services) sound more legitimate than they actually are.

    Paul Flood.
    Life Member and President, New Zealand Institute of Superior Property Managers.
    Last edited by Perry; 17-07-2010, 10:12 PM. Reason: fixed typo
  • whitt
    Fanatical
    • Jun 2005
    • 3922

    #2
    Would it be seen by the NZ advertising standards dept as a breach?
    It certainly sounds misleading .

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    • SuperDad
      Hamilton Event Organiser
      • Apr 2006
      • 4015

      #3
      I thought you would like that one Whitt.

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      • whitt
        Fanatical
        • Jun 2005
        • 3922

        #4
        Originally posted by SuperDad View Post
        I thought you would like that one Whitt.
        I guess someone if they felt it was misleading or false advertising they could complain to ASA and let them decide.

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        • spaceman
          Banned
          • Feb 2004
          • 2817

          #5
          I'd like to purchase a life membership to New Zealand Institue of Superior Property Managers..... Superdad as Preisdent could you put a good word for me to the selections board??

          Cheers
          Spaceman

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          • SuperDad
            Hamilton Event Organiser
            • Apr 2006
            • 4015

            #6
            Originally posted by spaceman View Post
            I'd like to purchase a life membership to New Zealand Institue of Superior Property Managers..... Superdad as Preisdent could you put a good word for me to the selections board??

            Cheers
            Spaceman
            There is only one member on the selection board - the President.

            I'll see what I can do.

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            • whitt
              Fanatical
              • Jun 2005
              • 3922

              #7
              New Zealand Institue of Superior Property Managers
              NzIospm?

              New Zealand society consolidated association managers
              NzScam

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              • SuperDad
                Hamilton Event Organiser
                • Apr 2006
                • 4015

                #8
                NZIMUI

                New Zealand Institute of Made Up Institutes.

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                • donna
                  Administrator
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 10075

                  #9
                  Sounds like a great idea having an Institute of Investment Property Educators - don't you think? It might provide a code of conduct etc that has been sadly missing in the Industry.

                  Cheers,

                  Donna
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                  • whitt
                    Fanatical
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 3922

                    #10
                    Do you honestly think it would work? I had hoped it would too but reality is different.

                    For an institute to work it would need guidelines plus a charter and be run by a non-affiliated organization.

                    If it was run or organized by an educator or group of them it would be biased and end up a controlled boys club with accreditations been given to only the mates. This in time would have a high chance of being corrupt.

                    Why would a Non-affiliated organization get involved if there is nothing in it for them?

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                    • whitt
                      Fanatical
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 3922

                      #11
                      That is unless a third party like PT wrote and administered the charter.

                      They pay a yearly application fee to get a PT educator accreditation. With regular reviews and high standard of conduct.

                      Sorry I cant think of any other organisation which would be independant enough to run it.

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                      • kapitibeanman
                        Forum Junkie
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 462

                        #12
                        Mad old world, ain't it? Perhaps a free uniform & a whistle would get some suitable person to step up to the plate.

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                        • The_Dog
                          Addicted
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 601

                          #13
                          Perhaps Sue T could administer the charter?

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                          • cube
                            Thinking outside the square.
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 5076

                            #14
                            Does the New Zealand Institute of Property Investment Educators have a charter (or a website)? Is it's goal to promote the industry, or to protect the consumer?

                            How does one obtain membership? - simply by paying a fee, or by achieving some standard of service as well.

                            Which other NZ Property Educators are members?

                            It would be great to see an independent body ensuring clear separation from education and property sales - or ensuring that any such link is clearly and unambiguously stated in all communications.
                            DFTBA

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                            • cube
                              Thinking outside the square.
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 5076

                              #15
                              Originally posted by whitt View Post
                              Would it be seen by the NZ advertising standards dept as a breach?
                              It certainly sounds misleading .
                              I don't think that the advert breaches standards, so long as the Institute exists, and those claiming to be members are.

                              There is no claim that being a member confers any special ability or advantage - as Superdad points out, what membership actually means is something for the consumer to determine.
                              DFTBA

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