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  • muppet
    Banned
    • Sep 2003
    • 10593

    #1

    Why the USA is in a mess.

    Socially progressive regulation caused much of the mess that has enveloped the US. In pursuit of the perceived social benefits of home ownership, the mortgage dice has been ridiculously loaded in favour of American borrowers. The American dream of home ownership for all is a fraud. Not everyone can own a home. But politicians pimped this dream, creating an unsustainable mortgage industry whose collapse is surprising only because it didn’t happen sooner.

    The US mortgage industry will not recover, or deserve to recover, unless someone somewhere is prepared to challenge that politically unpalatable reality. Eager law-makers in Washington are as much to blame for the financial crisis as the unregulated suits on Wall Street.

    Wrong regulation, rather than deregulation, is the problem.

    Those genuinely interested in understanding the causes of the meltdown could start by comparing the US mortgage industry with Australia’s. The stark differences explain why our central banker, Glenn Stevens, said a few weeks back that Australian banks were “light years away from what’s happening in other banking systems around the world”.

    And why Australia’s four leading banks sit among the 20 AA-rated banks across the globe. And why the most recent International Monetary Fund country report concluded that Australia’s banking sector was sound, with stable profits, high capitalisation and few non-performing loans.

    Unlike the situation in Australia, the American dream was founded on a house of legislative cards that deserved to topple. Take non-recourse mortgage loans. When Australians borrow money to buy a house, they know that if they default and the mortgaged property doesn’t cover the debt, they will be responsible for the shortfall and the lender will chase them for it.

    It’s a neat way of reminding Australians to borrow responsibly.

    In the US, where populist post-Depression laws in many states have mandated loans be non-recourse, the opposite is true. Americans can take out a mortgage loan more or less as a one-way bet.

    If you can’t afford the repayments and can’t refinance, you just send the keys back to the bank. The banks collect the jingle mail. Borrowers wipe their hands of liability. So, naturally, an American in financial strife will pay off debts that carry personal liability, such as credit cards, before they pay off their mortgage.

    Quite apart from the ugly economic effects of such laws, they are objectionable in a moral sense.

    What happened to the US being the land of sturdy individuality and personal responsibility?

    This is made worse by the fact that traditionally many American mortgages are typically set at a fixed rate for the 25 or 30-year life of the loan, and the borrower often has the nifty ability to refinance without penalty.

    Most Australian mortgages are usually subject to a variable rate of interest. Fixed-rate loans are limited to about five years. So when Australian lenders offer a fixed-rate loan for five years, they fund it by borrowing five-year money. If borrowers want to repay a fixed-rate loan early, sensible economics require that they pay the lender a break fee that compensates the lender for any penalty the lender incurs in breaking their back-to-back borrowing.

    Prepayment penalties are prohibited or severely restricted in the US. Thus, an American lender that makes a 30-year fixed-rate loan that the borrower can prepay at any time without penalty is simply making a bet about the average life of a loan. And while it’s true that there are good quality statistics about how long American loans usually last, these are necessarily averages. Averages don’t reflect actual experience and are especially misleading when real outcomes are at the extreme.

    If market interest rates fall below the fixed interest rates, borrowers will simply refinance at lower rates. Another fine deal for borrowers. If market rates rise above the fixed interest rates, the reverse applies. So loans are terminated by borrowers when they are profitable for lenders and loans last longer when they are unprofitable. Who would want to be an American lender?

    The US has a long and undistinguished history of populist politicians stacking the cards against lenders and in favour of risky home ownership. Proving that good intentions are no guarantee of good policy, Jimmy Carter’s 1977 Community Reinvestment Act, which required banks to make loans to low-income people, was just another legislative leg-up for high-risk borrowers. Socially laudable but economically reckless laws led to entirely predictable problems for lenders. And it’s no surprise that taxpayers are left holding the bill.

    The final proof that American social policies have made mortgage lending an unviable industry rests with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. If sensible business people don’t get into the mortgage industry because it is fundamentally a bad business, the American way has been to send in a couple of quasi-government agencies to fill the gap.

    Fannie and Freddie dominated the mortgage industry because ultimately government was prepared to fund activities that prudent lenders would not. When their implicit government guarantee became explicit, the US system of government-directed lending, promoting socially desirable but commercially imprudent borrowing, stood exposed.

  • donna
    Administrator
    • Aug 2003
    • 10072

    #2
    I read in the Dom Post yesterday that in America a property developer had a new marketing ploy to sell his OTP apartments. He said if Obama loses the election then the purchasers can renege on their contracts. But what's the bet that somewhere in some very fine print the purchasers can not get out.

    Interesting ploy - quite riciduous really especially in these times. Umm are any property developers getting any ideas of doing something similar for the NZ election?

    Cheers,

    Donna
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    • gladdy
      Freshie
      • Nov 2008
      • 12

      #3
      I seriously hope that the new president will make America worth living in again! Bush was one of the worst things that could happen to America - probably the attitude of the people will change with the change of the president!
      It is going to be real hard work that is for sure!!
      Last edited by muppet; 14-11-2008, 10:59 AM.

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      • PropertyReturns
        Opinionated
        • Sep 2008
        • 114

        #4
        Good post Muppet

        When NZ modern banking system was set up in the late 80's, a much better model was created by the then Labour Govt (Roger Douglas). Australia also followed with a better model which is why our banks are much safer, even if NZ is virtually the most in debt country in the world.

        Where the US problem is largely caused by poor quality loans, NZ's problems are caused by to much debt and zero productivity growth (and that is from a low productivity base). Solutions required in both countries are very different.

        There are a lot of people in NZ could would have liked to have followed the US approach with 'affordable housing' but hopefully now understand the dangers.

        Lets hope the legacy of the last Labour Govt is replaced quickly so NZ can enjoy high productivity. A bit of education is required first I suspect!

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        • Badger
          Fanatical
          • Feb 2008
          • 1796

          #5
          Originally posted by PropertyReturns View Post
          When NZ modern banking system was set up in the late 80's, a much better model was created by the then Labour Govt (Roger Douglas). Australia also followed with a better model which is why our banks are much safer, even if NZ is virtually the most in debt country in the world.
          What new banking system? Roger Douglas sold NZ out to special interest groups and privaledged individuals. All countries are debt riddled thats how the game works. NZ is in the same boat as other OECD nations sinking as the *band plays on*

          Originally posted by PropertyReturns View Post
          Where the US problem is largely caused by poor quality loans, NZ's problems are caused by to much debt and zero productivity growth (and that is from a low productivity base). Solutions required in both countries are very different.
          The US is in such bad shape because that is what is required to move towards the global one world currrency and many other agendas of elites. Heres a simple starter of *facts*...

          http://www.financialsense.com/transc...18griffin.html

          Originally posted by PropertyReturns View Post
          There are a lot of people in NZ could would have liked to have followed the US approach with 'affordable housing' but hopefully now understand the dangers.
          It was never about affordable housing it was about greed and conmen and get rich quick ponzi scheme! See the above link...

          Originally posted by PropertyReturns View Post
          Lets hope the legacy of the last Labour Govt is replaced quickly so NZ can enjoy high productivity. A bit of education is required first I suspect!
          Higher productivity? More like slavery for peanuts! More hours? Isnt it about less hours?

          A bit of education? More like a total overhaul and for starters this is not a free market, or capitalism! No OECD country practices either of these principles. See link above.

          Unfortunatly I doubt the *smiling assasin* is really that bothered about altering the status quo too much, the circus have already given themselves a pay rise of 4%...why am I not surprised!

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          • PropertyReturns
            Opinionated
            • Sep 2008
            • 114

            #6
            Badger I can see you are real hot on your economic history. What a great and significant web site link you give. I am sure if you search further you will be able to find out that man never landed on the moon and the Martians are on Earth watching (controlling?) us. Also did you know Badger that the Americans are building prison trains that can hold 65,000,000 people. And we all know what that is for. Its' true. Do a search on Google.

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            • gladdy
              Freshie
              • Nov 2008
              • 12

              #7
              Originally posted by Badger View Post
              Higher productivity? More like slavery for peanuts! More hours? Isnt it about less hours?
              I think you do now really understand what productivity means - being productive means to get be best output in the least time possible!
              So higher productivity does not necessarily mean - more hours!
              If people are more motivated they probably are more efficient within a shorter period of time!

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              • Badger
                Fanatical
                • Feb 2008
                • 1796

                #8
                Originally posted by PropertyReturns View Post
                Badger I can see you are real hot on your economic history. What a great and significant web site link you give. I am sure if you search further you will be able to find out that man never landed on the moon and the Martians are on Earth watching (controlling?) us. Also did you know Badger that the Americans are building prison trains that can hold 65,000,000 people. And we all know what that is for. Its' true. Do a search on Google.
                I enjoy an open mind, reading, observation, and real life experience!

                Its not martian's its reptilians! Has no one ever heard of this tale? Ive heard it many times through life from more than one source. Whats the big deal many believe the "bible" but thats in the same catergory from my perspective...

                Haliburton death camps remodeled from the 10th version known as Aushwitz Treblinka - Dacchu model. 65,000 thats a fair few slaves! The elites have learnt well from the previous financing operations like BIS or JPMorgan Chase Banking (1939-1945) operations... they got off from war crime trials and operate freely today with tax payer bail outs!

                The bigger gas chamber is the whole planet slowly turning in to fertilizer! Why would rulers promote this?

                The individual can only really know what information sits inside of them well.....

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                • Badger
                  Fanatical
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1796

                  #9
                  Originally posted by gladdy View Post
                  I think you do now really understand what productivity means - being productive means to get be best output in the least time possible!
                  So higher productivity does not necessarily mean - more hours!
                  If people are more motivated they probably are more efficient within a shorter period of time!
                  In real life when I was doing what I used to do instead of 40 hours a week it went to 60 hours! In real life I recieved less from the productivity, in all ways...

                  Im aware of the division of labour by Adam Smith are you?

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                  • agentyumi
                    Freshie
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 9

                    #10
                    Let’s be hopeful that the newly elected president who is a democrat could come to a best solution to resolve the mess that the US is experiencing right now. It’s not only the US who is suffering but also other countries.

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                    • Badger
                      Fanatical
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1796

                      #11
                      Theres no real two party set up in the US

                      its all bank rolled by the same elites for both sides, you know those guys the US tax payer is bailing out...mmm no capitalism over there since before 1913...

                      ...status quo is the agenda its just presented in a slightly different context that the average waddling mall consumer wont understand or dosnt care just so long as the all you can eat buffet is open...

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