I Love Apple

[freezinhot]

For tech help for your Mac go see Patrick at Magnum Mac on Newton Rd. He is an absolute guru for Mac based problems.

FH

[cube]

Mac OS has been hacked, and is available (bit-torrent) for non-Apple hardware.

Good luck in getting hardware drivers for it, 'though.

cube

[leapy]

Heg - I would recommend Firefox over Safari, from personal experience.

[Rolf]

I used to have a Mac but switched to PC long time ago, and haven't looked back since. There are just so many more applications to choose from in the PC world.
And it's currently running Vista with lightning speed, nothing to complain about at all.
I don't really know why I would want to buy a Mac to run PC apps, so I just stick with the PC.

But I still like Apple, especially my iPod.

[Marc]

And it's currently running Vista with lightning speed, nothing to complain about at all.

You must be running it on a Mac Power Book

[Rolf]

Sorry to dissappoint you Marc, but I must admit it is running on a good old fashioned PC...

Admitted, Apple do make nice gadgets but I don't think they provide the meaning of life, as some cult followers will want you to believe.

[Marc]

Sorry to dissappoint you Marc, but I must admit it is running on a good old fashioned PC...

Admitted, Apple do make nice gadgets but I don't think they provide the meaning of life, as some cult followers will want you to believe.

After working with MS for the last 5 years full time in a professional environment I can honestly say that Apple does provide the meaning of life which is "a stress free day not waiting for your computer to respond".

Cheers

Marc

[freezinhot]

Here here!!

[PeterEmpowerEd]

"We don't need no Windows Vista..."

After working with MS for the last 5 years full time in a professional environment I can honestly say that Apple does provide the meaning of life which is "a stress free day not waiting for your computer to respond".

Marc, you will love this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9GNM88AxZc

- Peter

PS I know it's not rational... but it's fun.

[freezinhot]

And apples are are good for you.

FH

[Marc]

Hello all,

At the end of the day my Apple has not crashed once since I brought it, it has downloaded 1 OS patch (reboot required). It has 1 gig of ram and runs the same software as my Vista machine including MS Office. No disk thrashing, no slow response times (waiting for the computer to catch up).

My Vista machine running 2 gigs of ram has a lag time of about 10 seconds if the same amount of applications are running as the Mac and is thrashing the disk so much that I am hearing that sound you here just before your disk dies.

The fact is Apple are using as its core a Unix based OS which is much better than Windows will ever be unless MS rewrite the entire OS - they have started to in Vista and look at the results - large amounts of software and device drivers that ran on pre-vista machines can't run on Vista - in fact look at all the NAS devices that use Samba - they cannot run on Vista yet.

Whatever you say about Apple - I have not once yelled at my Apple

Cheers

Marc

[PeterEmpowerEd]

Indubitably, my dear Watson....

The fact is Apple are using as its core a Unix based OS which is much better than Windows will ever be unless MS rewrite the entire OS - they have started to in Vista and look at the results - large amounts of software and device drivers that ran on pre-vista machines can't run on Vista - in fact look at all the NAS devices that use Samba - they cannot run on Vista yet.

Er, yes, Marc. (I think.)
This paragraph demonstrates why I thought of you when I saw the youtube movie.
Sing it with me... "Hey, windows, leave us geeks alone..."

P

[Rolf]

Hello all,

At the end of the day my Apple has not crashed once since I brought it, it has downloaded 1 OS patch (reboot required). It has 1 gig of ram and runs the same software as my Vista machine including MS Office. No disk thrashing, no slow response times (waiting for the computer to catch up).

My Vista machine running 2 gigs of ram has a lag time of about 10 seconds if the same amount of applications are running as the Mac and is thrashing the disk so much that I am hearing that sound you here just before your disk dies.

Don't know what you are running Vista on, but I have none of those problems.

By the way I'd very much doubt that a Mac can outperform todays fastest PC's, which is the main reason why I have a PC.
If you are just running office software etc. then it doesn't matter, but for more heavy computing I would definitely choose a PC any time.

It would be interesting to see some comparable benchmarks but I have not been able to find any?
Marc, are you able to find some benchmark results for both Mac and PC? Such as applying photoshop filters on large images etc.

[Marc]

Don't know what you are running Vista on, but I have none of those problems.

By the way I'd very much doubt that a Mac can outperform todays fastest PC's, which is the main reason why I have a PC.
If you are just running office software etc. then it doesn't matter, but for more heavy computing I would definitely choose a PC any time.

It would be interesting to see some comparable benchmarks but I have not been able to find any?
Marc, are you able to find some benchmark results for both Mac and PC? Such as applying photoshop filters on large images etc.

Peter from Empower sent me a link to a Mac PowerBook running Vista and it had the fastest Stats. I will try and locate. Its quite funny.

Cheers

Marc

[PeterEmpowerEd]

Speed

Here it is...

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136649-page,3-c,notebooks/article.html

From PC world:
"The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year is a Mac. Try that again: The fastest Windows Vista notebook we've tested this year -- or for that matter, ever -- is a Mac."

"... but the MacBook's score is far more impressive simply because Apple couldn't care less whether you run Windows."

As I said to Marc: "Oo, er." - Peter