Labour 'policy to make life better for renters'

[Anthonyacat]

Oddly enough they were.
But if having an earthquake is the best way to stimulate the economy then we are in trouble.

I haven't seen the stats to confirm or deny the above claim, but it doesn't sound right to me.

True that massive amounts of overseas insurance money came in. True that there's been a lot of building and etc productivity. But how much other productivity was lost? How much of the money for supplies etc went straight back overseas for suppliers?

And more than that, how much of the building productivity would have happened anyway, elsewhere in the country?

When the earthquakes happened, the govt said something along the lines of "expecting a large boost to GDP as a result of the earthquake, but the net effect will be a significant negative". Again, haven't seen any stats to confirm or disprove.

[mrsaneperson]

Has everyone forgotten a vote for Labour automatically gets you the Greens as well? Unless they get below the 5% threshold which is unlikely. The Greed Red Hell could be coming

[nano]

I wonder whether Labour party realises there are many reasonable LLs who suffer from bad tenants. Without being able to give 90days notice without reason, there will be more tenants who abuse the system and make LL's life hell. LL is lucky if tenants leave before 90 days without damaging the property and/or leaving many stuff at the property. If they do, would they know that LL has to bring the tenants to tribunal and chase up the money and how much it takes time and causes stress? Would they know how LL can't sleep at night worried about what those bad tenants might do to the property and sometimes they threaten the LL? Do they know how difficult to evict tenants?

I think 90day notice without reason should stay at least to protect LL from very bad tenants. Still, tenants can challenge LL for 'retaliation'! If there is no way to end the tenancy other than going through tenancy tribunal that won't necessarily guarantee the termination, it is really going to be 'hell' for LL and I do not think this is fair to any reasonable LL who has to deal with bad tenants.

[Learning]

Labours policy also included "extra resources for Tenancy Tribunal" to help speed up the process and on the video (time code 1.29min) they'll clarify antisocial behaviour in regards to tenants and tenancies.

[Wayne]

Has everyone forgotten a vote for Labour automatically gets you the Greens as well? Unless they get below the 5% threshold which is unlikely. The Greed Red Hell could be coming

or a saviour from the National no vision we have had for 9 years.

[Wayne]

I haven't seen the stats to confirm or deny the above claim, but it doesn't sound right to me.

I can't be bother finding article but they keep talking about the stimulus from the Chch rebuild.
The insurance money coming in helped the balance of payments heaps.

[Davo36]

I can't be bother finding article but they keep talking about the stimulus from the Chch rebuild.
The insurance money coming in helped the balance of payments heaps.

Well a car crash increases GDP, but is not a super good thing.

And regarding insurance, the more earthquakes we have, the more this will cost in international reinsurance.

There must be winners and losers. If you own a demo company then you would have done extraordinarily well. But if you owned an inner city (Chch) restaurant, then you would have done very badly.

Hard to see how it can be a positive overall.

[Wayne]

Hard to see how it can be a positive overall.

I did say it was surprising.
The stimulatory effect of the earthquake was large and kept the economy moving at a time when others were contracting.

[flyernzl]

According to Radio NZ today VUW law lecturer Mark Bennett, under Labour's policy, fixed term tenancies will be able to be terminated at the end of the term without (additional) cause.

He also said that periodic tenancies could be terminated with 90 days notice as long as 'some kind of reason is given'.

Although he may be correct on both counts under current law, seems unlikely that would be acceptable to Labour in terms of their policy.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/playe...o_id=201857174

But the reason would surely have to be some illegal act under the RTA?
You couldn't just say "Here's a 90 day notice because I don't like the shoes you wear".

I have used a 90 day notice on tenants who are just plain hard work. They delay the rent so I continually have to chase them, they leave litter around the place so I have to hassle them about that. It just goes on and on.
There is nothing specific but they are just a hard grind - so off they go.
How would that be handled?

[Learning]

But the reason would surely have to be some illegal act under the RTA?
You couldn't just say "Here's a 90 day notice because I don't like the shoes you wear".

I have used a 90 day notice on tenants who are just plain hard work. They delay the rent so I continually have to chase them, they leave litter around the place so I have to hassle them about that. It just goes on and on.
There is nothing specific but they are just a hard grind - so off they go.
How would that be handled?

Is it not stated in the RTA that rent must be on time and property must be kept reasonably tidy? So both grounds for 90 day notice.

[Perry]

And who/what defines "reasonable?"

In the event that it got to the TT Kangaroo Kourt, doesn't a 14 day notice to pay up have to precede a 90 day notice to quit when the grounds are failure to pay the rent on time?

[Learning]

It's a vote buying promise so it either won't happen or will take years to come in to effect. If it comes in at all it could be as soft as Jacinda described "A reason" ie. any reason, or as hard as you assume. More likely it will be in some middle ground like second or third 14 day notice issued.

[Bob Kane]

According to Radio NZ today VUW law lecturer Mark Bennett, under Labour's policy, fixed term tenancies will be able to be terminated at the end of the term without (additional) cause.

He also said that periodic tenancies could be terminated with 90 days notice as long as 'some kind of reason is given'.

I'd like to comment on this part:

periodic tenancies could be terminated with 90 days notice as long as 'some kind of reason is given'.

I think Jacinda and the Labour Party are being deceitful over this.
At first glance, 'some kind of reason' sounds harmless enough.
But I think Jacinda won't be honest until after the election - any legislation will examine the reason closely and reject notices unless the reason meets certain secret criteria.

I'm getting the feeling that Jacinda is quite devious and deceitful.
Her stance on tax and new taxes is another example of her deceitfulness.
Or perhaps it's just arrogance?

[eri]

we know that any reason can be challenged

which is why LLs have been advised to give no reason

[Perry]

I'm getting the feeling that Jacinda is quite devious and deceitful.
Her stance on tax and new taxes is another example of her deceitfulness.

Well, Bob, you know the old joke about how to tell if a politician is lying.