Drug paraphernalia

[JB123]

Hi there everyone

I've just signed up to this forum because I'm in a bit of a sticky situation.

We found a business card on our kitchen bench from our property manager... while she was in our home, she found our bong and also a couple of plants we shouldn't have had... She would have been snooping quite a bit to find this, it was in a little zip up greenhouse with some other veges and herbs. And we're literally talking 2 tiny plants which we've now... destroyed (it worked out to be less than you'd get for $50). It's not some huge commercial grow op, and we're certainly not selling.

She then gave us a 14 day notice to fix this, the garden and the general cleanliness of the house.

It horrified us that she'd been in the house without us knowing.

We sent a very good email quoting all sorts of legislation and insulting her in subtle, underhanded ways outlining exactly what sections she breached.

She's come back with an attachment of a notice she apparently sent but we did NOT receive. (Not just saying that, we totally would have been ready for it)

Does the notice even count if it were never delivered? The act says it must be 'given', which to me also implies receipt.

Where do we stand?

[ATandGT]

Most of me thinks your post has to be a windup; who dares post about partaking and committing an illegal activity claims to being wrongly treated?

Being notified of an inspection does not need to be received to count. You are on a very slippery slope; as a PM my next stop would have been notifying the local community constable of the find, informing the owner and an immediate claim to the Tenancy Tribunal to have the tenancy terminated. A 90 day termination notice would have been left taped to the bench then and there, so frankly if you've only been given 14 days to clean up, consider yourself very lucky.

[jimO]

did you set fire to your grow???

[AMR]

Mate, are you wanting to go to jail?

[Asmodeus]

God it was only a bong and 2 tiny plants, calm down about jail lol. And tell the police? sheesh

Sure it's against the rules but get over it.

Anyway sounds like both you and the PM were in the wrong. Unfortunately for you they don't cancel each other out. Sounds like you got off lightly as she COULD have told the police or booted you out but didn't.

I'd just clean up my garden, stash my bong better and give the cheeky letter writing a break if I were you...

[JB123]

Thanks for being reasonable about the level of offence - I'd say fairly standard for my demographic

The cheeky email was before I found out about the notice being lost - This last part only came to light just now.

Now that we do have proper notice we are obviously making our house perfectly presentable - as we have every other time we were properly notified.

We were thinking before all of this went down that we'd be getting a new place soon. Pretty sure I've blown all chances for a decent reference, but I'm in the process of finding a place now.

I'm still quite interested to know where I'd stand if she hadn't posted the notice (like we originally thought)? Could she be snooping around if she thought we had something we shouldn't? I wouldn't have thought so, but keen for opinions.

[drelly]

Thanks for being reasonable about the level of offence - I'd say fairly standard for my demographic.

Drug-addled schizophrenics?

I'm still quite interested to know where I'd stand if she hadn't posted the notice (like we originally thought)? Could she be snooping around if she thought we had something we shouldn't? I wouldn't have thought so, but keen for opinions.

Depends what you mean by "snooping". I would think "suspicious odours" would be enough reason to open a cupboard etc..

[PC]

Take that snooping PM to the Tenancy Tribunal!
Remember to bring along the plants and bong as evidence - photo's may be ok if it's too much to carry.
Let us know how you get on!

[TheLiberalLeft]

Give the man (or lass) a break. S/he spelled "paraphernalia" correctly. They can't be THAT addled.

[Property-Manager-Auckland]

Well at least the PM didn’t get into the undies and use your computer!!!

[Re@der]

Just clean up the place as per your 14 day letter and as the requirement on any tenant. Surely thats not too much to ask without receiving insulting emails in response

[essence]

Stop being a twat, the only thing you're worried about is being caught. The method of being found out may be wrong, but you know you've had illegal plants and substances in the property.

Lots of options -

1) Grow up and stop complaining. You know the rules/laws of the country. Either abide by them or don't complain and take the consequences.
2) Move out, get a new property and keep growing dope. Same situation, different locality.
3) Move out, get a new property and don't grow dope. Problem solved.

Then we can get down to what you've complained about.

1) The PM has come to the property (and in your opinion unannounced) and completed an inspection. You got found out. Tough. See option 1 above.
2) Give notice. See option 2 above.
3) Give notice, sort your life out. See option 3 above.

It's called ACTION AND REACTION. Doesn't matter what it is, if you keep doing what you're doing, you'll keep getting what you've got.

Our society is far too PC.

End of rant.

[TheLiberalLeft]

But from their pov, essence, the PC ones are the overly-sensitive authorities and other critics who have no right intruding on the personal lives of these individuals who are, and let's be honest here, harming no one but perhaps themselves (which is their choice and is no different to tobacco or alcohol users).

[TheLiberalLeft]

In other words, a truly non-PC liberal society would allow them the right to do as they choose, in the privacy of their own homes. Is that too much to ask?

Yes, I know it's not THEIR home, although it's a fine line to draw. And I know it's the law of the land. I'm speaking from a theoretical perspective, and am making the point that calling someone or something "PC" has become a sad cliche.

[essence]

No, it's not too much to ask ..... if that is exactly what happened.

But it doesn't. It is not a perfect world as we all know.

People don't stay in the privacy of their own homes, they do drive under the influence(s), the physical, economic, health, medical impact of their actions impact on the general populace.

Many example can be made of those who did use illegal substances in the privacy of their own homes, then choose to act irrationally.

In this particular case, one may say it's only "two little plants" but the next person may say, "Oh but it's only two warehouses full but it's for my private use".

The laws aren't fair to everyone but GENERALLY protect the masses. There will always be those who disagree - in any society.

We're just lucky we live in a society, where disagreement can/may be overlooked. In some societies, disagreement with the Government could mean death.

You and I obviously have different POV's and that's great. That's what's a free society is about.