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  • revdev
    Fanatical
    • Jan 2005
    • 1816

    #1

    Kiwi housing boom fades

    Morning all,

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3861042a13,00.html

    Kiwi housing boom fades
    15 November 2006
    By JAMES WEIR

    The property price boom is over, with an economic forecast that some areas such as Taranaki, Waikato and provincial Canterbury will see house prices fall in the next three years.


    In 2004 - at the peak of the five-year boom - national average house prices rose about 18 per cent.

    This year, house price gains slowed to less than 10 per cent, the slowest rate for three years.

    A report from mortgage insurance group PMI and economists Infometrics out yesterday forecast a 0.9 per cent increase in national house prices in the year to June 2007, gaining a total of 7.2 per cent by 2009, but some areas would see prices dip.

    Nationally, high debt levels and high interest rates are expected to slow the house market in the next six to nine months.

    PMI Australia chief executive Ian Graham said the report showed the boom was over, and price rises would be much slower in regions such as Northland and Taranaki after big gains in recent years.

    There would definitely be lower house price growth into 2007, he said.

    AdvertisementAdvertisementPrices would not collapse and the slowdown would be reasonably orderly.

    But the high level of household debt did make borrowers more vulnerable if they lost their job or their income fell, Mr Graham said.

    "Their debt commitments seem under control, but it doesn't need too much to dislocate that."

    In Australia, the property boom peaked in Sydney two years ago.

    In some "first home" areas, house prices were down about 15 per cent from the top of the market, with the median down about 7 per cent. With forced sales, prices could be as much as 25 per cent down on the purchase price, he said.

    The Australian property boom saw prices jump about 80 per cent, overshooting the market's long-run value, Mr Graham said.

    New Zealand prices had risen about 60 per cent over a longer period. In most areas, house prices were not expected to fall, partly because rising construction costs would keep prices up.

    Wellington house prices are expected to be flat in the next year, but improve a total of 7.5 per cent in the next three years - only 0.9 per cent better than inflation, the report said. A growing government workforce helped boost Wellington house prices in the past year, by almost 14 per cent.

    The report forecasts average prices in Taranaki, Manawatu and Wanganui to fall slightly in each of the next three years, following huge gains in the past three years.

    "With the exception of Manawatu, property in the region appears to be significantly overvalued and prices are forecast to fall 2.1 per cent on average over the next three years, down 8 per cent in real terms."
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  • adambaird
    Freshie
    • Apr 2006
    • 61

    #2
    Oh no, property is over. Better sell all my property so I don't make a loss and am definatley not buying anymore because the growth isn't going to be the same next year as it has been for the last couple of years. Help! What are we all going to do?

    Gotta run, off to sell my properties!

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    • Monid
      Philophaster
      • Feb 2004
      • 3062

      #3
      While the sarcasm is droll Adam for some people what you suggest is actually good advice, since they have vastly over extended themselves in the belief that capital gains easy streets forever. If they don't divest themselves of some of their portfolio shortly they may find themselves a bit close to the edge.

      Enjoy the sales
      David
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      • adambaird
        Freshie
        • Apr 2006
        • 61

        #4
        Totally agree with you Monid.

        It can be a marginal time for some investors/home owners.

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        • Jumpin
          Fanatical
          • Jun 2006
          • 1293

          #5
          Even if you are overextended, it is a bit early to panic as 9.6% growth only looks bad next to the double digits we've had over the last few years. In any case if you have bought in the dodgy areas, presumably your CF+ rent is still coming in and your mortgage is fixed below 7.5% for 5 years+.
          Is the slowdown coming to a rapid halt in the near future? Not round here.
          Put an offer in yesterday for a place in the Hutt, turns out that 3 'simultaneous' offers went in. Did another today- they wont even present the offer for 48hr to let the other agents take people round. "Company policy now apparently!"
          Ah well, onwards and upwards.
          Cheers
          Tim

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          • adambaird
            Freshie
            • Apr 2006
            • 61

            #6
            Hey Jumpin,

            Have you considered a "24 Hour Expiry" Clause?
            I was in your situation about 3weeks ago and it worked a treat!

            The agent presented the offer, the vendor accepted and everyone was happy. Yes, it was conditional too!

            My come-back to their "New company policy" is "Presenting offers to vendors when I spot the property is my company policy, please present my offer"
            We are running a business aren't we?

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            • Jumpin
              Fanatical
              • Jun 2006
              • 1293

              #7
              Thanks Adam,
              Actually I put in a 48 hr expiry - she said ooh thats new I havent done one like that before!!! She wasnt the listing agent so I guess she had to inform the listing agent, maybe that was it. I havent worked with her before and was just trying her out (so to speak.)

              What was the agent's reaction to you insisting do it here and now?

              I'm getting better at putting more offers in, but I'm still not totally comfortable with 'do it my way or not at all'

              Enjoying the practise though!

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              • hawkeye
                Addicted
                • May 2004
                • 744

                #8
                Was it a Leaders agent Jumpin? As they have always had that policy within their offices.

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                • adambaird
                  Freshie
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 61

                  #9
                  What was the agent's reaction to you insisting do it here and now?
                  I explained that the property is listed for sale and I am offering to purcahse the property. Why wouldn't you want to give the vendor's the opportunity to choose?

                  They don't usually like the "do it now" approach. Try not to come across as arrogant - that will not help the cause.

                  Was it a Leaders agent Jumpin? As they have always had that policy within their offices.
                  I may be wrong, but I reckon it may have always had that in their "training program" as opposed to their "policy"... In saying that, I have never negotiated a deal with Leaders.
                  Last edited by adambaird; 15-11-2006, 05:15 PM. Reason: edit the quote brackets

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                  • xris
                    Fanatical
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 3283

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jumpin View Post
                    Did another today- they wont even present the offer for 48hr to let the other agents take people round. "Company policy now apparently!"
                    Hello Tim,

                    Speak to the office manager about this and get him or her to be very precise when telling you about what this so-called policy is. It would be interesting to hear what you are told.

                    xris

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                    • adambaird
                      Freshie
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 61

                      #11
                      I personally don't worry about talking to the manager and finding out about their policies etc etc. I'm not interested in their business, I'm interested in mine.

                      All I want is for my offer to be presented for consideration by the vendor.

                      A sensible conversation with the agent for a few minutes you will get a positive result most of the time.

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                      • Jumpin
                        Fanatical
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 1293

                        #12
                        Hmmm yes it was leaders. Actually I remember talking to another of their agents a while ago who told me the same thing. I didnt put in an offer on that occasion. He wasnt keen on the policy as he said it gave all the lazy agents more chance to find a buyer. I can see his point No more early bird gets the worm, when you cant start eating till all the other birds turn up..!

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                        • McDuck
                          Fanatical
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 4377

                          #13
                          Originally posted by adambaird View Post
                          Oh no, property is over. Better sell all my property so I don't make a loss ,
                          Gotta run, off to sell my properties!
                          Hey umm on that subject....
                          I know of several people who had to drop their price to sell their property recently.

                          It almost seems the norm these days...
                          anyone got any similar or opposite situations?

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                          • Gatekeeper
                            Fanatical
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 1542

                            #14
                            I see expectations of sale prices way over what they will get. A close friend is selling and I knew they were asking too much (egged on by the Agent of course).
                            They will realistically need to drop 50k to get a sale and a valuation done by an interested party last week reflects this. They have already brought a more pricey house, so they are under pressure.
                            Don't count your chickens etc......
                            Find The Trend Whose Premise Is False - Then Bet Against It

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                            • Monid
                              Philophaster
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3062

                              #15
                              Do you remember the days when you could regularly buy property at 80% below not registered valuation but goverment/council valuation? I remember it not being that uncommon. Pretty hard to find these days.

                              David
                              New to property investing? See: Best PropertyTalk Threads for New and Old Investors And/Or:Propertytalk Wiki

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