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  • essence
    Fanatical
    • May 2004
    • 3578

    #1

    Your credit history up for scrutiny

    From Stuff 24/3/2012

    Skipping a bill or a credit card payment does not usually seem like a big deal.

    Once the rent has been paid and next week's salary is in, catching up is not often a problem.

    But, starting next Sunday, missed and late payments will have the potential to affect people's credit ratings.

    Banks, finance companies, telcos, electricity, gas and insurance companies will be able to collect and swap information showing how much credit someone has and how they are getting on with repayments.

    A few hiccups should not hurt anyone's ability to borrow money for a house, car or holiday in the future, says credit reporting bureau Veda.

    But a pattern of skipping – even on small payments – could result in a negative score.

    Companies stress that nothing will happen immediately – it takes months or years to build up a credit history and lenders are not yet ready to collect the information.

    Once lenders have notified their customers that they are going to start, they can hold the information for up to two years.

    First up are likely to be four "top end" banks and finance companies, which, Veda's John Roberts said, were looking to supply it data in the middle of this year.

    Within a year other lenders would join, and possibly later on telcos and power companies.

    The information will be swapped on a "whoever gives, gets" basis under a system worked out by umbrella body the Retail Credit Association.

    But first companies need to get their IT systems ready, says RCA head Justin Kerr.

    "I reckon in about three or four months' time if a consumer gets a copy of their credit file they will start to see information," says Roberts.

    Kiwibank, Westpac and ANZ say they will take part although they can not yet say when. ASB and BNZ said they were looking into it.

    At the moment, it is all too easy to forget there is a credit file held somewhere in your name.

    But consumer and privacy watchdogs say that needs to change.

    It is not very easy for an ordinary person to work out how they will be scored under the new system. Paying all bills on time is obviously the best approach, but how much leeway is there? New Zealand's two big credit agencies, Veda and Dun & Bradstreet, will not disclose the exact formulas they use to assign people credit scores but they did provide some guidance.

    "If you have missed a payment on your credit card it will show as a one month missed payment. If you catch it up the next month it will show that you've caught it up," says Roberts.

    He says the pattern of payment matters more than the amount, and one or two misses should not matter too much.
    The rest of the article is here.
    Patience is a virtue.
  • One
    Fanatical
    • Sep 2007
    • 1255

    #2
    "one or two misses should not matter too much." ??!!

    You can be zero credit risk and miss a payment through bank error, or being messed around if changing banks, or forgetting to change APs to a new credit card number etc. If you miss one payment every few years, I hope that matters not at all!

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    • Perry
      Geriatric
      • Sep 2004
      • 16861

      #3
      "If you have missed a payment on your credit card it will show as a one month
      missed payment. If you catch it up the next month it will show that you've
      caught it up," says Roberts.

      He says the pattern of payment matters more than the amount, and one or
      two misses should not matter too much.
      Wonder how that relates to someone who habitually pays off their CC in
      full* each and every month? Due on Saturday; paid on Saturday; golly-
      gosh it's Labour weekend; payment not processed until Tuesday night/
      Wednesday morning - then what. Late or not?

      For all that, I suppoose it had to come, eventually.

      *As compared to someone who is paying installments only

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      • DazRaz
        Addicted
        • Jan 2011
        • 836

        #4
        Bigger question is will Landlords be able to add rent payment history.

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        • Perry
          Geriatric
          • Sep 2004
          • 16861

          #5
          Probably too small for the
          big sharks to bother with.

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          • kyotolaw
            Opinionated
            • Feb 2009
            • 212

            #6
            Does anyone from TINZ read these forums? It would be nice to know if they plan to add this functionality to their reports...

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            • Keys
              Fanatical
              • Nov 2006
              • 6062

              #7
              Yip. (must enter more stuff)
              https://www.propertytalk.com/forum/i...ilies/lock.gif

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              • Wayne
                Fanatical
                • Jun 2004
                • 10899

                #8
                Originally posted by Perry View Post
                Wonder how that relates to someone who habitually pays off their CC in
                full* each and every month? Due on Saturday; paid on Saturday; golly-
                gosh it's Labour weekend; payment not processed until Tuesday night/
                Wednesday morning - then what. Late or not?
                If it was late the bank will charge you he interest for the whole period - if they didn't charge then it wasn't late.

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                • Perry
                  Geriatric
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 16861

                  #9
                  Use Of Aliases On The Rise
                  27/03/2012
                  Nearly half a million people in New Zealand use aliases - a number
                  which has doubled in the past two years, says credit agency Veda Advantage.

                  Figures released by Veda show there are 441,000 people on its alias
                  register, and 1000 more were being added every week.

                  Veda managing director John Roberts said the figures were an
                  indication of the financial strain on New Zealanders.

                  "The main reason for this is we are still seeing financial stress
                  coming through from the downturn in the economy, and what you've got
                  now is a whole bunch of people with adverse information on their
                  credit files."

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                  • tallica1
                    Freshie
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 78

                    #10
                    Originally posted by kyotolaw View Post
                    Does anyone from TINZ read these forums? It would be nice to know if they plan to add this functionality to their reports...
                    Perhaps I can shed some light on your question.

                    TINZ can not add that functionality to it's reports because the 'positive credit reporting' information will not be available to the whole rental industry, as stated by the Privacy Commissioner. This is basically because the rental industry is not considered a credit provider. As mentioned in the article above "The information will be swapped on a "whoever gives, gets" basis under a system worked out by umbrella body the Retail Credit Association.

                    An interesting new feature recently added to the TINZ system is the ability to do a search on the Ministry of Justice database for unpaid Fines. This is an extra optional tick-box option when running a tenant check. The 'standard' TINZ check automatically includes a search on the Ministry of Justice Tenancy Tribunal orders database, which is a separate database from the Fines database.

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                    • Perry
                      Geriatric
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 16861

                      #11
                      What of a 'police report?' Are they obtainable?
                      If so, what do they cost and how many hoops
                      have to be jumped through to get one?

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