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  • AustinWong
    Forum Junkie
    • Mar 2004
    • 475

    #1

    Buy or wait then buy?

    Hi all, this query is not necessarily strictly property investing but it would be great if some of you seasoned investors are able to put your thoughts to my query.

    Scenario is that my friend is selling a house due to separation.

    Her house is going to auction in 2 weeks.

    The expected amount she will receive from this is $200k.

    Intent is that she and her partner would like to purchase a home that can accommodate both their sets of children. The view is that there will be a need to purchase a 4 bedroom home.

    Due to constraints outside of control there will be a delay of 6 to 8mths before they could combine income to purchase a new home jointly.

    My friend is worried about waiting till they can both buy a home jointly due to the money wasted on rent in the interim and also the potential raise of property prices.

    From what I gather, with a $200k deposit she could afford on her own a $550K property (ie $350K mortgage). This would effectively be a 2 bedroom unit in Howick where she would like to purchase.

    A 4 brdm home is about $850k which could be afforded when both are together.

    So is it a more sensible strategy to buy a smaller home now to keep in the market? Or wait and buy the right house in 6 to 8 mths time.

    One idea would be to hold onto the first purchase as a rental and then use the equity in it to buy a second bigger family home?. Challenge will be achieving a 20% deposit.

    Be great if folks could lend their brains to this situation and hopefully come up with some smarts about how something like this could be approached?

    Maybe buy a real do up 2 bedroom and sell for gains? Or extend?

    Not sure if there is enough info to work off but please do ask and I will try get info to fill the gaps.

    Thank you

    L
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  • mortgage broker
    Fanatical
    • Mar 2008
    • 1245

    #2
    It very almost impossible to predict what will happen in the market. It seems like getting into the market straight away is a safe bet. However couple of points to consider

    1. Supply for apartments may only increase in the coming year
    2. The Reserve Bank may come up with something game changing after reviewing the REINZ data in Feb and March
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    • Gladdynook
      Forum Junkie
      • Sep 2012
      • 358

      #3
      Regardless of what your friend does, make sure she understands that as soon as she puts up the $200k for the new house, her new partner is most likely to legally have rights to half of it should they ever split. Suggest she loans the funds from a trust to be safe. Seek legal advice now, if she hasn't already!

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      • Damap
        Banned
        • Jul 2012
        • 3340

        #4
        Depending on their level of ability what I would do is find a vacant home in Howick make a cash offer with a sizable deposit with settlement in 12 months and the right to rent until closing. With a decent deposit this won't be difficult. PM me if you'd like more help with clauses and the like.
        We are all guessing but Howick is going bananas, 6 to 12 months could easily be an extra 50 to 75K on buy price.
        Doing what I suggest you could also make the rent principal payments. I have done this many times it is possible. The secret is you need a vacant preferably ex rental that is scruffy. That sort of owner wont be scared of the offer.

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        • BigRedDog
          Opinionated
          • Sep 2012
          • 226

          #5
          200k... Firstly tell her to get advice on how to protect her assets/cash.

          1 - Some banks do bridging loans.
          Talk to a broker.

          2 - I did a long settlement once that worked very much in my favour with prices going up.
          Negotiation is the key. Might have to buy at premium price or try Damap's methods.

          3 - Rent to buy.

          So is it a more sensible strategy to buy a smaller home now to keep in the market? Or wait and buy the right house in 6 to 8 mths time.
          Based on what you said... I would not buy a smaller home just to sell in 6-8 months time.
          Say a $550k house goes up 10% in value (very optimistic)
          After 6 months... that would be a gain of $27,500.
          After paying lawyer fees (twice for a purchase and sell) and RE Agent's commission etc etc... probably break even at best.
          Could be some taxes involved as you sold quickly after purchasing.
          All that stress for no real gain.

          Nah not me... I would buy small now to live in for a long time or wait to buy a bigger home.
          Since kids are involved and being a family orientated man... I would wait and buy the right home.

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          • DIY Donz
            Freshie
            • Jun 2012
            • 77

            #6
            Is there an option for her to buy out her ex....not sure if the $200K is a 50/50 split but if so she could leave her equity in there and only have a mortgage of $200K and stay in the market until ready to buy with her new partner....?

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            • Keys
              Fanatical
              • Nov 2006
              • 6062

              #7
              Buy now, in a family trust name, rent it out. Secure her assets and stay in the market. Rent somewhere else with the new partner.

              If the new partner is still around in 10 years time her assets will still be secure and will be able to be used for the family should she wish.

              In 10 years time the kids will have left.

              In 10 years time the interest rate for your rental will be up for review (TSB)

              Many things can happen in 10 years. Do not​ buy with the new partner. One of the most common ways for women to lose money.
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              • AustinWong
                Forum Junkie
                • Mar 2004
                • 475

                #8
                Hi folks. Some great comments. I really appreciate it as I am sure my friend will be.

                Look forward to any further opinions.

                Thank you again.

                L
                Last edited by AustinWong; 10-02-2015, 11:51 AM.
                How do you eat an Elephant?
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