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    Land tax - what it could mean for you

    4:00 AM Saturday Jan 30, 2010
    Owners of the Auckland's 443,200 homes would have to give the Treasury an extra $443 million if they were subject to a 0.5 per cent levy. Photo / Herald on Sunday


    Aucklanders would be hammered by a proposed land tax, with households facing an annual bill running into thousands of dollars.
    According to conservative estimates, owners of the region's 443,200 homes alone would have to give the Treasury an extra $443 million if they were subject to a 0.5 per cent levy.
    A land tax was one of several in the tax working group's recommendations to the Government this month.
    An economist has also given warning that such a move would lead to falls in property values and an increase in rents.
    If the value of land was taxed, the rich would pay more, but people on low incomes who have property would be the hardest hit.
    Superannuitants living in the wealthiest eastern and northern suburbs of Auckland and others on low incomes would be particularly affected as they would not necessarily benefit from the proposed tradeoff of lower income tax.
    Remuera households could be paying $6500 each and those on the North Shore $1300-$4000 a year. Financier Mark Hotchin of Hanover could be paying almost $100,000 a year for his three-section block in Paritai Drive, Orakei, and Prime Minister John Key would be up for much the same on his slice of St Stephens Ave in Parnell.
    Southlanders, living on New Zealand's lowest-price housing land, would be paying just $30 a year for the average section.
    With Auckland's scarce land supply commanding the country's highest prices, residents would pay comparatively more than other New Zealanders.
    Real Estate Institute figures show Auckland's median section price is $227,000, so the proposed 0.5 per cent land tax would draw a new annual $1138 payment.
    December's national median section price of $170,000 would draw $850 in land tax a year.
    Bryan Thomson, CEO of Harcourts real estate, said such a tax would penalise people who had scrimped and worked hard to get ahead.
    Peter Thompson, a director of Barfoot & Thompson, said low-income homeowners in Auckland's poorer suburbs could suffer the most because their house values were low and sections were worth more.
    Westpac economist Dominick Stephens said a land tax might cause house prices to drop 4.4 per cent nationally and push up rents only 2.2.
    The Victoria University-led tax working group recommended taxing the unimproved value of property - the land, not the house. It said a 0.5 per cent levy would raise $2.3 billion.
    Taxing the unimproved value of land could be an effective lever to raise revenue while dampening a resurgence in house prices without creating too many distortions, the group said.
    Local councils or Inland Revenue would gather the tax, based on the rating valuations.
    "As a base-broadening measure, land tax has a number of merits," the group said. "Because of the size of the land base - valued at approximately $480 billion, prior to any negative impact on land values as a result of the imposition of the tax - a large amount of revenue could be raised at a low rate."
    Two-thirds of the $2.3 billion (about $1.52 billion) would come from residential sections. Farms and forests account for about a quarter, and commercial and industrial sites the rest.
    Concerns about the effect of the tax on Maori landowners and farmers have been raised since the proposal was floated. The Greens support it, according to co-leader Metiria Turei.
    Reserve Bank chairman Arthur Grimes, an economist, has been advocating a tax on all land for some years. He suggested at a tax conference last month that a threshold could be set where land worth less than $50,000 a hectare was exempt - which would include most farm land.
    But it would make little difference in the suburbs, where land values per hectare typically run into millions.
    BNZ chief economist Tony Alexander is sceptical a land tax will ever be enacted, "given the long list of exemptions which would be needed and the outright opprobrium it would generate".
    However, he added that it would be logical to remove tax breaks for landlords, such as depreciation allowances.
    TAKING A HIT
    AUCKLAND
    Manly Section prices: $485,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $2425
    Glenfield Section prices: $260,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $1300
    Mairangi Bay Section prices: $370,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $1850
    Devonport Section prices: $770,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $3850
    Massey Section prices: $230,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $1150
    Pt Chevalier Section prices: $440,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $2200
    Mt Albert Section prices: $350,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $1750
    Epsom Section prices: $800,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $4000
    Onehunga Section prices: $350,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $1750
    Kohimarama Section prices: $780,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $3900
    Remuera Section prices: $1.3m Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $6500
    Pakuranga Section prices: $360,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $1800
    Dannemora Section prices: $580,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $2900
    Papatoetoe Section prices: $325,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $1625
    Manurewa Section prices: $185,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $925
    Clarks Beach Section prices: $335,000 Annual 0.5 per cent land tax: $1675
    - Source: Barfoot & Thompson, figures based on a random selection of residential valuations, compiled for The Herald. Land value segmented out from total capital value. Herald tax calculations.
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  • #2
    Hang on. Is it 0.5% of Land Value or is it 30-something % (ie the tax rate) of that figure?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by k1w1 View Post
      Hang on. Is it 0.5% of Land Value or is it 30-something % (ie the tax rate) of that figure?
      I think you may be confusing income tax rates with the completely separate tax rate on land. Just as GST has no relation to income tax.

      A section valued at $300,000 would bear an annual land tax of $1500 at 0.5%. No deductions. You could have nil income yourself but if you owned it, you'd have to pay.

      I think its an attractive tax even though it might hurt me personally. Very simple, easy to assess, easy to collect or enforce = order for sale if not paid.

      But I think Tony Alexander is correct - politically it looks too hard and the screams for exceptions will overwhelm the idea.

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      • #4
        Are local authorities going to be taxed for their holdings in transport, buildings, etc?

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        • #5
          The farmers will bleat about this, and they are National's strongest supporters, so I don't reckon this will happen.
          Squadly dinky do!

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          • #6
            Not to mention little old ladies (National's core voter) who live in relatively nice suburbs, have no debt, but also no savings and are surviving solely on the pension. These people tend to struggle on that income, meagre as it is. Finding an extra $100-$200 per month would be a very serious problem for them.

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            • #7
              Farmers won't bleat quite as much as you think, Davo, if this $50k per hectare exemption is allowed thru.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by k1w1 View Post
                Not to mention little old ladies (National's core voter) who live in relatively nice suburbs, have no debt, but also no savings and are surviving solely on the pension. These people tend to struggle on that income, meagre as it is. Finding an extra $100-$200 per month would be a very serious problem for them.
                Quite right but we already have precedent to deal with that. Payment of rest-home charges is deferred until the home is sold which may be years later. No reason why tax couldn't be deferred and charged against the title.

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                • #9
                  Difficult to administer and despite being deferred, wouldn't placate the tax-payer much.

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                  • #10
                    how anybody could agree with this tax is beyond me we already pay land tax it is called rates and if you don't agree with that than the gst on the rates is also a tax
                    the way rates and values are colated by councils is the biggest rort out don't incourage these thief's let them get their snouts out of the trough and safe $ like we have to do in hard times.
                    Last edited by floyd; 31-01-2010, 11:41 PM.

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                    • #11
                      If a Land Tax is bought in, it will be carefully targeted to only impact on rental property - and probably only on residential rental property.

                      Any Government (and in particular a National Government) would recoil from imposing a Land Tax on owner-occupied housing and on farmland.

                      Most home-owning people in NZ live in houses that they could not afford to buy at today's values. I certainly couldn't afford right now to buy the house I live in. Couple this with the rising number of older people who tend to be asset-rich and income-poor, imposing such a tax on owner-occupied housing would be electoral suicide. Postponing the tax until the homeowner dies will not cover the Government's current cash-flow shortfall and will therefore in my view not be a viable option.

                      Similarly most pastoral farmers derive a very poor on-farm income compared to the value of their farm asset. Such a tax on a multi-million dollar farm would kill a farmer who currently has an income of $70/100,000 or so.

                      Face it people, as Landlords and Property Investors you are currently the devil incarnate and all the problems of society can be laid at your door. As previously with boy racers and cellphone use in cars, all the tribulations of western civilization can be solved in one easy stroke by hanging you out to dry.

                      My pick is that the next budget will bring in some punitive measure to punish us for being what we are. These measures will of course be illogical, ineffectual and given time will cause unexpected unfortunate consequences for some people. However, they will satisfy the public's call for blood at this time.

                      Politically, that's what counts right now.

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                      • #12
                        Good post flyernzl. After a little girl was mauled by a dog some years ago the Labour govt introduced microchips for dogs. Why? Was this ever going to stop dogs biting people? No, and of course we've seen the exact same thing happen a few times just recently.

                        The Labourites would have done it because it was unacceptable for them to say "Well some people don't look after their dogs well and there's nothing we can do about it. Keep and eye on your kids or they will get bitten." The nanny state govt had to be seen to have an answer and so another bit of useless legislation was passed. The media and the masses were appeased.

                        And so as flyernzl says above, this is what is happening now with property investors. It's nice for people to have someone to blame (other than themselves) when things aren't going well. And it would be so easy for the poor useless layabouts in society to believe that 'rich' property investors aren't paying any tax and need to come up with more to give to the 'deserving poor' who are all 100% honest and pay all their taxes.

                        But this is a National government. Put into office by people who know better than this. Farmers, small business owners, people on good salaries and so on. Can they afford to alienate them? I don't think so, they'd be out come the next election.
                        Squadly dinky do!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by AMR View Post
                          Are local authorities going to be taxed for their holdings in transport, buildings, etc?
                          Good question. I can see Local Authority Trading Enterprises (LATES) paying land tax. I think it would be simpler if local authorities directly holding land be exempt.

                          What about bowling clubs, golf courses, churches - land owners which are treated as charities and pay no tax? The list of exemptions grows longer.....


                          Originally posted by flyernzl View Post
                          If a Land Tax is bought in, it will be carefully targeted to only impact on rental property - and probably only on residential rental property.


                          Face it people, as Landlords and Property Investors you are currently the devil incarnate and all the problems of society can be laid at your door.......all the tribulations of western civilization can be solved in one easy stroke by hanging you out to dry.
                          I don't think its anything as dramatic as that. Most kiwis won't even notice the TWG or care about it. The people who do care are the govt who know they have future spending obligations and too narrow a tax base to draw the money from.

                          I don't like any tax but a land tax makes sense if it is kept simple. Raising GST by comparison hurts the low-paid who are already struggling to get along.

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                          • #14
                            Land tax is wealth tax and is blatantly discriminatory. 35% of the population wan't pay the tax. renters they are.
                            340000 private rental houses out there so if Key wants to be dumped all he has to do is introduce a land tax aimed at investors.
                            Not got an redeeming features once all the exemptions are allowed.

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                            • #15
                              The tax, suggested last month by the tax working group, would be 0.5 per cent of the unimproved land value

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                              so for a bit of land with $100k LV land value and a $100IV improvements value ie building, (CV$200k total gov valuation)

                              the tax would be $500pa, or $10pw
                              Last edited by eri; 01-02-2010, 07:58 PM.
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