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  • muppet
    Banned
    • Sep 2003
    • 10593

    #1

    Kiwis told to be wary of Aussies bearing gifts - Michael Yardney

    Kiwis told to be wary of Aussies bearing gifts
    5:00AM Sunday July 13, 2008

    High-profile Australian property investor and author Michael Yardney warns New Zealanders they could be ripped off by Australian property marketers.

    Some marketers are taking advantage of "many" investors turning to Australian property because they recognise the New Zealand market is in a slump. They are selling "off the plan" properties with extravagant capital growth promises of 20 or 30 per cent.

    "Be wary of Australians bearing gifts," he cautions. "If it looks too good to be true it probably is."

    Australians would not pay the price that New Zealanders being flown over are paying for off the plan and new properties, Yardney says. "They're paying too much and buying the wrong properties."

    Not all real estate markets in Australia are doing well, Yardney says. "We've got a very two-tiered market: inner suburban, or close to the water is doing well; and a lot of the high-rise isn't, off the plan isn't, and outer suburbs are not doing as well."

    He advises Kiwi investors planning to buy in Australia to choose established properties in the inner suburbs of Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane - close to the water and CBD.

    "Be cautious if you're going over there - the tax rules are different, the legal rules are different."

    Yardney is talking to currently New Zealand property investor groups about strategies. "You're really early into what's probably going to be a three or four year slump," he says, but adds that the end of a boom doesn't necessarily mean a crash.

    The "scary thing," Yardney says, is most current property investors haven't been in the market for more than four or five years, so they've never lived through a property cycle - they don't know what to expect.

    He says interest rates will drop, "but when market sentiment has been knocked by a number of things, people won't instantly come back - it's a herd mentality".

    Smart investors will invest counter-cyclically, but ensure they have a buffer to see them through difficult times.

    "There's a huge oversupply of certain properties - you've got lots of apartments, developers have a lot of stock and houses aren't selling, so rents may not keep rising."

    Yardney says people shouldn't get carried away by negativity - opportunities remain - and should stay positive.

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  • Commercial Dan
    Fanatical
    • May 2007
    • 1520

    #2
    I agree that the Aussie pushers are in force and people must stay away from them.

    Think about it, if these were such great deals wouldn't they be sold in Aussie? Wouldn't the donkeys selling them want them for themselves?

    Or even better, think to yourself, 'would I ever give away a property that was such a great deal'?

    I hope commonsense prevails and punters realise that the guys selling them this junk are former bankrupts who are about to go under again. They should run an advertising campaign saying, 'PLEASE HELP ME AVOID MY USUAL BANKRUPTCY AT THIS STAGE OF THE CYCLE, BUY GOLD COAST PROPERTY'!

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    • whitt
      Fanatical
      • Jun 2005
      • 3922

      #3
      They should run an advertising campaign saying, 'PLEASE HELP ME AVOID MY USUAL BANKRUPTCY AT THIS STAGE OF THE CYCLE, BUY GOLD COAST PROPERTY'!
      HAHAHAHHA

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      • summadayze
        Freshie
        • Jun 2007
        • 72

        #4
        Originally posted by Commercial Dan View Post
        'PLEASE HELP ME AVOID MY USUAL BANKRUPTCY AT THIS STAGE OF THE CYCLE, BUY GOLD COAST PROPERTY'!
        lol awesome

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        • captaincrab
          Fanatical
          • May 2005
          • 1069

          #5
          Spot on CD.
          Australia is heading for the same mess as the rest of the world.

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          • Gatekeeper
            Fanatical
            • Jan 2004
            • 1542

            #6
            Property nearing once-in-100-year By Fiona Gilles

            July 13, 2008 09:20am

            Half of all houses lost value last month
            Last time that happened was before the Depression
            Property: news and tips to beat the slump

            PLUMMETING property values have prompted warnings Australia is heading for a one-in-a-100-year real estate slump.

            New figures from property analyst Residex showed house and unit prices in nearly every city and country centre fell last month. The last time all states fell at the same time was just before the Great Depression.

            More than 50 per cent of all homes across the nation lost value in June. The slump is affecting the top end of the market as well as the lower end.

            Residex chief executive John Edwards is warning of tough times ahead. "It looks like we're moving into a one-in-100-year event," Mr Edwards said.

            "It points to a situation where unless the Government and Reserve Bank take action Australia could move into a recession.

            "The only other times this has ever occurred are before we have moved into severe recessions."

            The Residex statistics come at the end of a gloomy week for the Australian economy. Official figures released last week showed housing construction declined for a fourth consecutive month and demand for loans fell 23 per cent in the four months to the end of May.

            Higher petrol prices and interest rates, and the share market slump also saw consumer confidence drop 51 per cent to its lowest level since 1992, when the economy was recovering from recession.

            Mr Edwards said housing markets in different states usually rose and fell at different times.

            "To see an adjustment going on a wholesale basis across the whole of the nation is incredibly unusual," he said. "Never in my lifetime have I seen so many converging negative events."

            Residex reports the current median house value in Sydney is $573,000, down 1.05 per cent in June compared with 1.81 per cent for three months to the end of June.

            RP Data's director of property research Tim Lawless said what happened in the coming months would depend on inflation.

            He showed some optimism, although he said values would probably fall further this year.

            "Coming into 2009, it's likely - and it depends on what happens with interest rates - we will start to see some value improvements return to the market, albeit relatively small," he said.
            http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...015810,00.html
            Find The Trend Whose Premise Is False - Then Bet Against It

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            • nzfrazer
              Opinionated
              • Dec 2003
              • 212

              #7
              I'm confused - some high profile NZ investors have been promoting Oz property investments meanwhile there's talk of a huge slump?! What's really going on over the ditch?

              Throw your heart over the bar and your body will follow - Norman Vincent Peale

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              • Badger
                Fanatical
                • Feb 2008
                • 1796

                #8
                The same as everywhere else in the world nzfrazer its GLOBAL

                MASSIVE IMBALANCES from to much credit MARKET MANIPULATION and too many MALINVESTMENTS

                INFLATION is out of the bottle

                you have been told aload of econobabble nonsense for 30 years...

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                • waiopehu24
                  Opinionated
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 216

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Gatekeeper View Post
                  PLUMMETING property values have prompted warnings Australia is heading for a one-in-a-100-year real estate slump.
                  Yeah yeah we'll see
                  Persistence (per-sis'tans, -zis'-) n. 1 The act of persist-
                  ing. 2 The quality of being persistent 3 The continuance
                  of an effect longer than the cause that first produced it.

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                  • chook
                    Fanatical
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 1684

                    #10
                    its called sensationalism

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                    • Muffin
                      Opinionated
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 236

                      #11
                      If this is an indicator, I own a house 2km from the CBD of Sydney (in the inner west), I sold my vacant block, next door to my house for $364,000 on Friday. My ex and I bought the house (and block) last September for $1,100,000, apportioning the value it would appear that we are down about 5% overall.

                      Given the proximity to the city, the absence of vacant land and that it is a good building block, this is not a healthy indicator...

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                      • Commercial Dan
                        Fanatical
                        • May 2007
                        • 1520

                        #12
                        Well put Muffin.

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                        • Badger
                          Fanatical
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1796

                          #13
                          Originally posted by chook View Post
                          its called sensationalism
                          Its all quite real chook!

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                          • waiopehu24
                            Opinionated
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 216

                            #14
                            What is sensationalism? excusing my ignorance
                            Persistence (per-sis'tans, -zis'-) n. 1 The act of persist-
                            ing. 2 The quality of being persistent 3 The continuance
                            of an effect longer than the cause that first produced it.

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                            • chook
                              Fanatical
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1684

                              #15
                              i know its real badger ive seen it in the 80s, 90s, and its happening again now. (i understand the 70s slump was a real clanger!)thing is every time it happens, the SENSATIONALISTS say this is the one, the only, the 100 year sucker punch, yes its going to be nasty for a few years just like it was all those other times. ask the ones who went through them and came out the other side, we havent even come close to the pain of previous slumps, but remember they werent that long ago.

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