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  • muppet
    Banned
    • Sep 2003
    • 10593

    #1

    Morgan advises home owners not to panic

    Morgan advises home owners not to panic
    By NIKKI PRESTON - Waikato Times | Saturday, 17 May 2008

    While real estate agents urge buyers to snap up good deals, high-profile economist Gareth Morgan warns would-be house buyers not to be in a hurry.

    Dr Morgan will be in the Waikato on Wednesday night sharing a mix of heavy investment expertise on property prices, financial advice on how to make the most of KiwiSaver sprinkled with light-hearted tales about motorcycling around Africa and Antarctica to raise money for Sport Waikato.

    Not only has Dr Morgan promised to share his expertise, he is also paying for it. He and his wife Joanne will be matching the total amount raised from the $15 door charge.

    "If the community raises $15,000 then we will give $15,000," he said.

    The investment manager, the father of TradeMe's Sam Morgan, will put the property market under the spotlight and discuss the likelihood of prices returning to normal either through a "slow burner effect" over a six year period or in "flames".

    House prices continuing to slide was "great news" as it meant the home ownership would be more accessible for a larger number of New Zealanders, he said. The stabilising of the house market would not affect most homeowners.

    "Unless you are up to your eyebrows in debt you can ride it out, but if you are up to your eyebrows then you are stuffed."

    He said New Zealand was not alone in turns of the global downturn and was following the rest of the world.

    Dr Morgan also believed Kiwis should make the most of the subsidies offered by KiwiSaver while they could as he didn't foresee them lasting too long.

    "Don't be silly about it. It's under tax breaks so only use up to the limit," he warned.

    "Once you are in, you can't get out."

    After the two week tour of New Zealand raising money for different charities, Dr Morgan and his wife are heading off to Iceland to continue their round-the-world motorcycle trip. They will also be sharing stories of their motorcycling adventures so far at the presentation.

    To register for the seminar at the Founders Theatre in Hamilton at 5.30pm next Wednesday visit www.gmk.co

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikatotimes/4551145a6415.html
  • Commercial Dan
    Fanatical
    • May 2007
    • 1520

    #2
    Is this the same Gareth Morgan that predicted property prices to fall significantly in 2004! He also has said that people are now in trouble, etc for borrowing too much and buying property. Well, a lot of us here aren't in trouble and will relish a downturn with open arms and make even more $$$.

    What are we supposed to do, buy a managed fund run by one of those donkeys? Kiwisaver is a waste and I recommend everyone not to take it up, all you are doing is filling a fund manager's pocket....it's a fad!

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    • spurner
      Fanatical
      • Apr 2005
      • 1583

      #3
      Wouldn't it be nice to still be making money regardless of what the economy was doing? Wouldn't it be nice to still make big profits even if you make poor investments which lose a lot of money? Your clients can be losing money and going backwards but you get to keep clipping the ticket regardless. It actually sounds a bit like a scam when you really think about it...

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      • Glenn
        Fanatical
        • Jun 2005
        • 3861

        #4
        I heard him talk in Nelson last week along with 1200 other attendees.
        He slagged all the other Kiwi saver schemes.
        His charts showed all of the default schemes were currently minus 20%
        No mention was made of the IRD mysteriously loosing eveyones money for months on end. Probably another goverment scam to fund the labour party election costs. Helen must get lessons from Mugabee and Bush.

        He said property was headed down for the next four years.
        Then encouraged everyone to buy some of his books that he had on sale at the back of the hall.

        He had a selection of great pictures of his last motorbike adventure.
        Actually I had previously seen some pictures from a fellow member of his team. Those ones were much more interesting but Gareth had to fit lots more into his talk then just the motorbike stuff.

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        • NZGEMS
          Addicted
          • Jun 2005
          • 772

          #5
          So Glen in your humble opinion do you think he i worth a trip out on a cold night?

          I did hear him once many years ago, long before the trade me days (now I am aging myself) I know in those days he was a share man not property.

          Robyn

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          • Glenn
            Fanatical
            • Jun 2005
            • 3861

            #6
            Originally posted by NZGEMS View Post
            So Glen in your humble opinion do you think he i worth a trip out on a cold night?

            I did hear him once many years ago, long before the trade me days (now I am aging myself) I know in those days he was a share man not property.

            Robyn
            "Worth" ?
            I can guarantee that my investment of $15 will not have any earnings on it.
            I think at times one needs to got to these things to be seen.
            We all need to be informed to the same point.
            Without having been exposed to a particular point of view it is hard to be considered creditable by others who might have gone but can not remember what he said.

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            • Commercial Dan
              Fanatical
              • May 2007
              • 1520

              #7
              Originally posted by spurner View Post
              Wouldn't it be nice to still be making money regardless of what the economy was doing? Wouldn't it be nice to still make big profits even if you make poor investments which lose a lot of money? Your clients can be losing money and going backwards but you get to keep clipping the ticket regardless. It actually sounds a bit like a scam when you really think about it...
              Agree spurner, the funds management industry is only for the financially naieve and the gulliable! Great market for Morgan and his team of donkeys!

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              • halfempty
                Addicted
                • May 2008
                • 603

                #8
                Originally posted by muppet View Post

                "Unless you are up to your eyebrows in debt you can ride it out, but if you are up to your eyebrows then you are stuffed."
                OK so let me get this right I'm going along to listen to a member of one of the richest familys in NZ explain to me that if I have borrowed too much I'm stuffed?

                Hmm sounds useful and all for a $15 donation.

                But still you get to listen to a bit about his travels to exotic locations so i can return home to my humble soon to be ex abode full of the images of what could have been if i wasn't so "Stuffed".

                Sign me up...


                Blop
                Blop
                Blop
                Blop
                (Sound of leemings hitting the floor)

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                • Glenn
                  Fanatical
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 3861

                  #9
                  Originally posted by halfempty View Post
                  OK so let me get this right I'm going along to listen to a member of one of the richest familys in NZ explain to me that if I have borrowed too much I'm stuffed?
                  Actually if you want to get the real stuff from him you need to subscribe (AKA for pay) to his regular updates.
                  I have heard his staff speaking and they are very good.
                  Not that I did anything different after hearing them.
                  At least they do not speak with a lisp.
                  But the staff live a far more boring life than the master.
                  His pictures of poor people scratching a living out of the dust along with a few pictures of dictator's monuments built with our donations are always fun to look at.
                  We have to start worrying once we start building bronze statues of Helen and her sisters.

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                  • Halfway To Paradise
                    Opinionated
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 148

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Glenn View Post
                    We have to start worrying once we start building bronze statues of Helen and her sisters.
                    I totally agree with this. That is why she has to go by the end of this year. She is starting to put things in place for the scenario you suggest. i.e. have you noticed she has put back the carbon credits introduction for large heavy industries? Who do you think will be the main benificary of this? I suggest the smeltering industries. She has her eye on those bronze statues already.

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                    • Glenn
                      Fanatical
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 3861

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Halfway To Paradise View Post
                      I totally agree with this. That is why she has to go by the end of this year. She is starting to put things in place for the scenario you suggest. i.e. have you noticed she has put back the carbon credits introduction for large heavy industries? Who do you think will be the main benificary of this? I suggest the smeltering industries. She has her eye on those bronze statues already.
                      My goodness I had not thought of that.
                      Perhaps she is aiming to have a the statue made of aluminium.

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                      • Halfway To Paradise
                        Opinionated
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 148

                        #12
                        Is that because she is a light-weight politition?

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                        • Glenn
                          Fanatical
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 3861

                          #13
                          Looks like another book could be written entitled "The hollow women".

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                          • k1w1
                            Fanatical
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 1652

                            #14
                            Pronunced 'wimmin'. Get that right, or you'll be first up against the wall.

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