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  • Fencing neighbour won't pay his share of new fence - says he never agreed!

    This is a fence that runs down a shared drive and my own property. Total cost of the fence was $3000. My share was 50% ,$1500 and the other 3 neighbours on the other side of the fence agreed to pay $500 each making up the other 50%.
    I received 2 quotes ,the first was costing close to $6000 , the 2nd which was accepted was $3000 - for exactly the same 1.8M wooden paling fence .

    The new fence was to replace a dilapidated run down fence of similar height and materials. I took pictures before & after.

    Two of the neighbours have paid in full their share to me.

    The third person of Asian descent now says he never agreed to pay!

    This non-payer did originally agree that he would pay me his share verbally in a discussion i had with him shortly after the 2nd quotation was given to all parties in October 2014. His only concern was that his immediate neighbour was happy with the fence and then he would also be happy to pay his share. As long as the neighbour was happy he was all good with it!

    The accepted quotation was given to all parties in October 2014 and the fence was built in late April. Just one day before construction was due to happen i encountered him in his driveway and reminded him politely of his payable share. Then he tells me he never agreed to anything and why should he have to pay. I told him under the fencing Act he was liable for contribution. His retort was ok get your lawyer to send me a letter! Discussion did not go much further. I was pretty stunned by this sudden backflip!

    After the fence was constructed, the next day each party was sent their bill payable within 14 days as per the original accepted quotation with payment instructions to my account.The fence looks superb and has made a major difference to all properties concerned.I spent all my time getting quotes and meeting contractors onsite and now face a situation where all parties have paid me - except him.
    His last response by way of an email in response to my request for payment, was that no formal agreement or meeting took place. His actual email to me below:

    .................................................. .............
    No legal notice of any sort was served and as a consequence the owners of x Drive.
    There was no formal notice served to the owners of x Drive, there was only a display of quotation documents and a verbal explanation. During such exchange, it was made clear that there was no agreement surrounding the erection of the right hand side driveway fence. The recent letter stated there was an ‘agreed quotation’, which is a false statement because at no point in time the owners of x Drive expressed agreement towards the fence construction under the proposed circumstances.
    There was no communal meeting that included the other parties involved, the owners of x Drive was not presented with many options to towards the materials or contractor used for the job. The second part states that ‘any part of the work on a fence that is done before notice relating to the work’ this relates to the above and the fact that the fence has already been completed. As a consequence, there is no liability involved.
    It is in the best interest of both parties to come to an agreement, the owners of x Drive will not pay the $500 allocated amount by MSP within the 14 day period unless issues have been resolved properly.
    ...............................................


    In response to the above email i sent him a detailed reply along with copies of the original 2 fencing quotes that had been given to him and again requesting payment of his fair share within 14 days as per the Fencing Act.

    After nil response within 14 days i followed up again stating that the bill needed to be paid ,that both his neighbours had paid in full and it was only fair that he pay his share - And that in the event of non-payment the matter would go to court with added costs on top.

    Still no response.

    Not sure where to go with this now - as a last resort disputes tribunal.

    I will have to get his full Asian name from council records as i only have a first name - that was all he initially gave me.

    Bloody headache!

    Any ideas?
    Last edited by mrsaneperson; 05-06-2015, 03:12 AM.

  • #2
    Did you cross your "T's" and dot your "I's"?

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    • #3
      there is a reason i dont work for asians, i have found that they like to negotiate the price once the work is done even if they already agreed to the price, probably the way they operate back home

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      • #4
        What a racist bunch you guys are! All ethnicities have their share of idiots and cheats - you shouldn't make such sweeping generalisations. In this case, being Asian has nothing to do it.

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        • #5
          Classic Asian behaviour. If you didn't get it signed off it's probably tough nana.

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          • #6
            Replace his section with the old fence and keep the new one inside your boundry?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by hcho078 View Post
              What a racist bunch you guys are! All ethnicities have their share of idiots and cheats - you shouldn't make such sweeping generalisations. In this case, being Asian has nothing to do it.
              One person says something and we are all racists - what a sweeping generalisation.
              jimO expressed his opinion based on his experiance.
              All ethnicities do have their share of idiots and cheats - some have more than others.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Maccachic View Post
                Replace his section with the old fence and keep the new one inside your boundry?
                I'd be tempted with this option.

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                • #9
                  Ultimately you made the mistake of treating everyone as fair people.
                  Seems 2 are and one isn't.
                  The lesson is that with some people you need to get everything in writting, signed, witnessed and anything else you can think of.
                  I'm not sure you will get far but the Disputes Tribunal is an option.

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                  • #10
                    Wayne, did I say all PTers were racist? My post was directed at the racist comments that came before my post. Not sure why you're offended?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by hcho078 View Post
                      Wayne, did I say all PTers were racist? My post was directed at the racist comments that came before my post. Not sure why you're offended?
                      You said
                      What a racist bunch you guys are!

                      Bunch - more than 1
                      guys - plural

                      maybe you meant 'what a racist guy you are' - after all the 3rd person was the 1st to make what could be construded as a racist comment.
                      Maybe you could say the Op made a racist remark when the race was mentioned but was it really?
                      By the way - I'm not really offended.

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                      • #12
                        Find fluorescent yellow paint or some colour repugnant to Asians (to continue the not racist theme) to paint the wall of your property facing that neighbour

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Eugene View Post
                          Find fluorescent yellow paint or some colour repugnant to Asians (to continue the not racist theme) to paint the wall of your property facing that neighbour
                          To do so you would have to go into their property (you do mean paint the fence?).
                          Also, if the fence is on the boundary, I think it is illegal - vandalism.

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                          • #14
                            Dispute tribunal, get your neighbours on board as witnesses.

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                            • #15
                              Actually racial stereotypes exist because there is some truth in them. At least I have found so.
                              I have volunteers work for me through an exchange and find:
                              Germans, Scandi, Americans, Irish and English fantastic workers, respectful and not argumentative, they have a positive attitude but check when unsure.
                              While the Latin types are variable.
                              Asians are quiet and stoic so you don't know if they are happy with the work (I try fit the work to the person's skill set and interests).
                              Exception to stereotype - Germans have sense of humour.
                              Unfashionable, un PC to talk about differences, but they exist of course.
                              Kiwis define themselves as having a number 8 mentality, Americans love the idea of freedom, South Africans... etc. Just ask anyone in the business of branding and advertising. Ads run in Oz would fall flat here.
                              Sorry if digresses too much from thread...

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