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  • Waveindigo
    Freshie
    • Aug 2007
    • 11

    #1

    Rate rises 'paying off' as housing cools

    By VERNON SMALL - The Dominion Post | Thursday, 20 September 2007


    The housing market is cooling under pressure from four increases in official interest rates this year, the Reserve Bank says.


    Just hours after the United States central bank cut rates by 50 points to 4.75 per cent, Alan Bollard told the finance and expenditure select committee yesterday that the New Zealand housing market was responding to the Reserve Bank's interest rate medicine.
    The Kiwi dollar jumped about US3 cents, to US73.1c yesterday after the US rate cut - the Kiwi's biggest one-day gain in nine years.
    "The numbers we are tracking now suggests that we are having a significant bite into the housing mortgage market," Dr Bollard said in evidence to the committee's inquiry into monetary policy.
    "It's been coming through pretty much as we forecast. It's not falling off a cliff, but it is coming through showing some contraction there, and we think that has to happen."
    His comments came as a Bank of New Zealand survey of residential real estate saw professionals reporting the market had turned down fast.
    The survey, sent to 11,500 people, found many had noticed a downturn in house sales and were less optimistic about the sector's fortunes.
    Agents described the market as extremely quiet, with low sales and falling prices, particularly in Auckland.
    House prices have doubled in the past five years.
    Last week, Dr Bollard held the official cash rate at 8.25 per cent, noting that previous increases were starting to dampen domestic spending.
    Dr Bollard told the committee monetary policy was working and the 'irony" was that New Zealand's regime was seen as the standard model for a small open economy.
    Inflation had been kept under control, and the economy had experienced the longest period of uninterrupted growth in New Zealand's history.
    Export volumes had held up, though manufacturing sales in the domestic market had been harmed by competition from China.
    It was true that monetary policy was taking longer to bite, but that was because of a highly unusual set of circumstances - high commodity prices, a massive housing boom and an excess of global investment funds.
    Reserve Bank chairman Arthur Grimes said it was worth considering other ways to using the bank's main official cash rate, but most came with "fish hooks". "The message I would like to leave with you is: avoid tinkering unless you're pretty sure, almost certain in fact, that tinkering is going to benefit."
  • poormastery
    Banned
    • Apr 2007
    • 493

    #2
    Mission accomplished?

    I suspect that these comments allow Mr Bollard to save face, because he will most probably do a u-turn soon and start cutting rates. He can justify this on the grounds that he stopped the property price boom...

    Regards,
    *poormastery*

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    • Orkibi
      Fanatical
      • Sep 2004
      • 2419

      #3
      Hello Poormastery , I don't think that Mr Bollard will cut rates soon , as that will re boost the housing market.

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      • Josko
        Fanatical
        • Dec 2004
        • 2075

        #4
        What say you ComericalDan? 60c yeah right.

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        • poormastery
          Banned
          • Apr 2007
          • 493

          #5
          Hi Orkibi,

          Hello Poormastery , I don't think that Mr Bollard will cut rates soon , as that will re boost the housing market.
          I am sure Dr Bollard doesn't want to cut interest rates, for this very reason.

          Nonetheless, how high can Dr Bollard let the NZD rise, before the pain for the export sector seriously endangers the economy? The USD is currently around 15 year lows, and looks like it could tank further...

          Regards,
          *poormastery*

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          • Commercial Dan
            Fanatical
            • May 2007
            • 1520

            #6
            Originally posted by Josko View Post
            What say you ComericalDan? 60c yeah right.
            I still stand by it, by the end of the year it would have hit 60 cents along the way. It is going up and down like a yo-yo, only last week it was 68 cents and the Fed cut was inevitable. You have to remember, a 50 basis point cut is very large and the Fed have obviously seen something (not all data is available to the public) that frightened the sh** out of them.

            What the market is not pricing in is that weak data will spread and nobody will escape the credit crunch.
            Last edited by Commercial Dan; 20-09-2007, 07:57 PM.

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            • Orkibi
              Fanatical
              • Sep 2004
              • 2419

              #7
              Originally posted by poormastery View Post
              Hi Orkibi,

              how high can Dr Bollard let the NZD rise,

              *poormastery*
              Im not an expert in the field but probably intervention- selling $US. I think july was the peak for the $US .


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              • poormastery
                Banned
                • Apr 2007
                • 493

                #8
                Hi Orkibi,

                The USD is close to going into freefall, having hit 15 year lows against a basket of currencies, and continuing to head lower. The US current account deficit is currently 6.5% of GDP, so trade flows would indicate the USD should fall sharply.

                In addition, the Fed is cutting base rates leading to interest rate differentials substantially worsening for the dollar. Furthermore, Saudi Arabia just removed their USD peg.

                Direct intervention in the currency markets by the RB can only amount to a drop in the ocean compared to the positions of big market players.

                We will see!

                Regards,
                *poormastery*

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                • Edinburgh
                  Opinionated
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 186

                  #9
                  It is dissapointing but not surprising that Bollard sees contraction as a success.

                  Read an interesting article in the Herald business section today about how many European housing markets are more bubble like than the US which, along with Ireland, has actually had a rise in values that can be shown to be the result of rising incomes and population.

                  Of course, the reason for the failure in the US market is that their lending policies were idiotic. This is the cause of the problem.

                  In NZ we haven't had the same lax house lending and our growth could also be said to be as a result of a growing economy and immigration.

                  Tony Alexander in his weekly report points out that despite all the media talk, the reality is that there is no reason for a big decline in housing or anything else. Indeed, with farming payouts (dairy isn't the only thing booming), the bulk of our trade being with Oz (where exchange rates aren't that bad) and tax cuts coming we are very unlikely to see anything other than continued growth and a stable economy. Certainly makes sense.

                  Of course, if Bollard had his way there would be a crash with people out on the street and without jobs - except for him.

                  If we had 25% higher productivity (ie: Oz levels) we wouldn't have a problem with inflation and house prices so why don't we see policies aiming for that?

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                  • Commercial Dan
                    Fanatical
                    • May 2007
                    • 1520

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Edinburgh View Post
                    It is dissapointing but not surprising that Bollard sees contraction as a success.

                    Read an interesting article in the Herald business section today about how many European housing markets are more bubble like than the US which, along with Ireland, has actually had a rise in values that can be shown to be the result of rising incomes and population.

                    Of course, the reason for the failure in the US market is that their lending policies were idiotic. This is the cause of the problem.

                    In NZ we haven't had the same lax house lending and our growth could also be said to be as a result of a growing economy and immigration.

                    Tony Alexander in his weekly report points out that despite all the media talk, the reality is that there is no reason for a big decline in housing or anything else. Indeed, with farming payouts (dairy isn't the only thing booming), the bulk of our trade being with Oz (where exchange rates aren't that bad) and tax cuts coming we are very unlikely to see anything other than continued growth and a stable economy. Certainly makes sense.

                    Of course, if Bollard had his way there would be a crash with people out on the street and without jobs - except for him.

                    If we had 25% higher productivity (ie: Oz levels) we wouldn't have a problem with inflation and house prices so why don't we see policies aiming for that?
                    I agree with you about Bollard, he is a dreary bugger and appropriately always grim and grey.

                    Mr Alexander has got things horribly wrong in the property market before, when he said back in 2004 that there would be falls of 10% in 2005, so would take his statements with a grain of salt.

                    I think there have been some real lax lending policies here which we are going to pay for at some point. Some lenders had lo-doc loans where punters did not have to declare their income at all officially yet they got the same rates as 1st tier.
                    Last edited by Commercial Dan; 21-09-2007, 12:42 PM.

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                    • poormastery
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 493

                      #11
                      Mass madness

                      As usual, I disagree with everyone here. I believe Dr Bollard got it right tightening monetary policy as he did.

                      A casual stroll through this forum indicates why he had to tighten rates so sharply. A collective mania for property speculation had gripped the country. Every hairdresser, car washer and civil servant was planning to give up their day job to speculate on property trading.

                      Meanwhile, New Zealand has arguably the worst household savings record in the developed world. As a consequence of the appalling lack of savings, New Zealand was (and still is) having to borrow ever increasing amounts of money from overseas.

                      The current account deficit (exports – imports) is running near a staggering and unstable 10% of GDP deficit per annum. If not corrected, this could bankrupt New Zealand in a decade. These insane levels of borrowing had to be tempered – and the only viable mechanism the central bank to achieve this goal was via short term interest rates.

                      So be it!

                      Regards,
                      *poormastery*

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                      • Commercial Dan
                        Fanatical
                        • May 2007
                        • 1520

                        #12
                        I agree with PM.

                        I don't like Bollard at all but he was left with no choice in the end but to hike rates. My only gripe is that this will probably lead to a hard landing, oh well, I guess that is the sign of a healthy market economy.
                        Last edited by Commercial Dan; 21-09-2007, 08:49 PM.

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                        • powerbroker50
                          Forum Junkie
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 347

                          #13
                          Rates

                          Poormastery I agree with much of what you have said. However the problem with rates it that it only effects those who have just brought and first home buyers. The reason for this is that anyone who has lived in a property for a period of time now has a large amount of equity. So if their property drops in value a little it really will not effect them. I think that the Auckland apartment market and rural areas will be hit hard.

                          However increasing rates will at least scare some people off and restore some sanity to the market.

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