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  • Marc
    Strong Fences make Good Neighbours
    • Jul 2003
    • 3853

    #1

    Experts' tip: Now's the time to buy a house

    If you are secure in your job and have enough money saved, now is the time to buy a house, say real estate experts.

    No one should try to pinpoint the bottom of the housing market and if the price is right, the timing is perfect, says BNZ chief economist Tony Alexander.

    His call sits uncomfortably with talk of recession and the worsening international outlook, but it is based on sound judgment.

    "As long as I figured on keeping my job I would be out there actively looking for a property at the moment," Mr Alexander said.

    "I wouldn't be hanging off simply trying to pick the low point in the house-price cycle."

    Economists had proved they could not pick the top of the cycle, so no one should expect them to pick the low point, he warned.

    He believes real estate sales have probably almost reached their weakest level, and activity is likely to fluctuate and start moving up before the end of the year.

    House prices will possibly fall another 5 per cent, but will stabilise by the end of the year, then rise slightly next year, he says.

    Buyers should be seeking a mortgage interest rate of 5.5 per cent fixed for five years.

    "But as I wait for this rate, I'll become increasingly prepared to accept something just below 6 per cent just in case the world suddenly looks like a brighter place," he said.

    Mr Alexander is not alone in his views.

    Property author and advocate Kieran Trass is running a seminar in Remuera on March 7 on taking advantage of the crash.

    He says Auckland flats are the first category of property this decade to emerge as cashflow-positive - "paying you to own them" - because of interest rates and property prices.

    BIS Shrapnel's managing director, Robert Mellor, said this week the Auckland house market would reach its lowest level by May and called for banks to loosen up on lending.

    Strategic Risk Analysis economist Rodney Dickens, of Whangarei, said the market was eroding the benefits of renting a house, and it now made more sense to buy.

    "Only six months ago the economics were hugely in favour of renting, but with house prices having had more than half of the fall we expect and five-year fixed mortgage interest rates having fallen from 9.1 per cent to 6.5 per cent, it would be understandable if quite a few people were tempted to buy rather than rent and to lock in longer-term mortgages to give them certainty about interest costs," Mr Dickens said.

    Some people were responding to the economic conditions by buying existing houses, rather than building new ones.

    "But this response will drive section prices down relative to existing house prices and restore the competitiveness of new housing."

    UBS NZ senior economist Robin Clements says would-be buyers should house-hunt now, but not necessarily buy.

    The next round of the recession could bring wide-scale job layoffs, debt-servicing trouble and more forced house sales and it would not be until the middle of the year that people would be able to tell where the economy was going.

    "My base case is that we will muddle through without that worst-case scenario but that is the risk and house prices will continue to fall for much of this year."

    An online survey of 2852 New Zealanders this month by the Business Council for Sustainable Development found nearly a fifth of them feared they might lose their jobs this year.

    Those on low pay and those making more than $100,000 a year were among the most worried.

    Bayleys' communications manager Scott Cordes said savvy buyers can get great deals and he cited Saturday afternoon's auction of seven Whisper Cove properties at Snells Beach which sold for about half price.

    More than 300 people watched as three-bedroom villas - one valued at $1.07 million - went for $500,000 to $550,000 and an apartment sold for $328,000.

    A year ago, buyer Sandi George found a place there priced at $900,000. At the weekend, she got it for $515,000.

    Mr Cordes said the many mortgagee auctions and receivership deals such as those at Whisper Cove offered great buying.

    But people considering buying a family home should not forget long-term principles.

    "If you're buying and selling simultaneously, you're in the same market. Both houses will have dropped in price by a similar percentage," he said.

    Market recovery is being picked at between six months and three years, he said.

    Barfoot and Thompson director Peter Thompson said people needed to act differently in a weak market.

    His advice is:

    * Be cautious about borrowing - don't get a loan for any more than 85 per cent of a property's worth

    * Sell your own place before buying; cash-buyers get better deals and can bid confidently at auctions

    * Seek longer settlements: instead of a month go for two, giving more time to seek a new home

    * Consider selling by auction: Barfoot and Thompson says it sells auction homes in 35 to 40 days, against 60 days for fixed-price.

    * Fix a mortgage for the longest-term possible, up to five years if you can.

    * Don't over-commit - buy in an affordable suburb then move to your "wish suburb" a few years later.

    Mr Thompson said Barfoot agents had noticed the market picking up. More people at open homes, more multi-offer contracts and 241 properties sold last week - the highest number since November 2007 - were evidence of a change, he said.

    Sydney real estate expert Neil Jenman encourages people to negotiate directly with house-sellers to get the best deals in bear markets.

    "Tell the agent, 'I want to meet the sellers.' If the agent gives you the slightest bit of cheek such as saying something inane like 'What for?' resist the urge to reply, 'Because I want to meet the people who are getting more than half a million dollars of my money, you inconsiderate boof-head' and go and knock on the sellers' door.

    "Say, 'G'day, we are the people who are buying your home. Do you mind if we come in?' That's all you have to say - and, presto, you are sitting with the sellers, the big decision makers," said Mr Jenman.

    But in Auckland, Mr Cordes and Mr Thompson strongly advised against such meetings, saying agents were professional negotiators.

    BEAR MARKET MOVES

    * Tough it out - prices will eventually rise again
    * Don't sell unless pushed; the market is still dropping
    * If you're thinking of buying, one economist says leap now
    * Mortgage payments woes? Talk to the bank and explain
    * Consider restructuring loans and waiting out the slump
    * If you have to sell, spruce and clean the house but be realistic on price
    * Buyers fixing long-term are getting favourably low interest rates
    * Twenty per cent deposits are becoming more common, so save hard.

    Source: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...0558809&pnum=0
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  • k1w1
    Fanatical
    • Dec 2006
    • 1652

    #2
    Love the bit about meeting the vendors. Scares the agents shitless, does talk like that! hahaha

    The headline directly contradicts the comment "My base case is that we will muddle through without that worst-case scenario but that is the risk and house prices will continue to fall for much of this year."

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    • brettc
      Opinionated
      • Nov 2007
      • 166

      #3
      Hmmm. What is the impact of 20% deposits for finance likely to be?

      Are 20% deposits for first home buyers real or a myth?

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      • Green Fish
        Fanatical
        • Apr 2008
        • 2074

        #4
        Isn't the real issue how this load of tripe managed to get onto the front page of this morning's Herald?

        The best bit is Mr Alexander's comment that starts with "As long as I figured on keeping my job ...".

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        • CENTRAL55
          Freshie
          • Feb 2009
          • 79

          #5
          For what it's worth my Daughter and Son-in-law have just purchased their first home in Dunedin. It has reached the point there where they been able to get into a perfectly livable 3 bedroom 100m2 1974 build brick home on 705m2 with a separate double garage with their mortgage repayments (16% deposit) lower than it would cost to rent the same property (yes they realise that with rates and insurance etc it will cost a little more). The whole place is as-new inside with new kitchen, bathroom, paint, floor coverings, light fittings etc but the section has been neglected and needs work (easily done with their own labour and a bit of TLC).

          My point is, that even if this property does go down a little more in value before coming back they are still better off than renting and can use their own labour to add value. So in my view there are places in NZ now where purchasing a home (not speculating !!) is now worth considering. I realise that they're lucky to be in Dunedin where prices are lower anyway but it's nice to see homes becoming more affordable.

          Cheers
          Common sense isn't so common anymore

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          • k1w1
            Fanatical
            • Dec 2006
            • 1652

            #6
            "Lucky to be in Dunedin"

            Oxymoron of the day. No offence.

            Strictly speaking, it's not an oxymoron, but you know what I mean.

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            • Green Fish
              Fanatical
              • Apr 2008
              • 2074

              #7
              It's good to hear of a family with the correct focus, namely, the cost of buying versus the cost of renting. (It's a pity that thousands of other NZ families didn't ask themselves this question - and it's a pity that the NZ valuation profession never made them ask it.)

              One point re the 16% deposit: You have to include the interest earned on that money by leaving it in the bank and renting. (Those who do their sums on the basis of a 3% deposit rate and a 5.5% mortgage rate should realise that only six months ago is was 8% and 10.5%.)

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              • CENTRAL55
                Freshie
                • Feb 2009
                • 79

                #8
                Originally posted by k1w1 View Post
                "Lucky to be in Dunedin"

                Oxymoron of the day. No offence.

                Strictly speaking, it's not an oxymoron, but you know what I mean.
                Actually it's quite interesting, quite recently there was a NZ wide survey (can't remember by who but it made headlines in the ODT (surprise surprise)) where people rated their cities based on all sorts of factors, from friendliness to cost of housing etc etc etc and good old Dunedin (guess where I'm from ) came first overall !! For those that haven't been there for a while, you should try it, but make sure it's in Summer

                Cheers
                Last edited by CENTRAL55; 26-02-2009, 12:14 PM.
                Common sense isn't so common anymore

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                • CENTRAL55
                  Freshie
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 79

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Green Fish View Post
                  It's good to hear of a family with the correct focus, namely, the cost of buying versus the cost of renting. (It's a pity that thousands of other NZ families didn't ask themselves this question - and it's a pity that the NZ valuation profession never made them ask it.)

                  One point re the 16% deposit: You have to include the interest earned on that money by leaving it in the bank and renting. (Those who do their sums on the basis of a 3% deposit rate and a 5.5% mortgage rate should realise that only six months ago is was 8% and 10.5%.)
                  Very true but frankly I'm thrilled that they've had enough sense to save for, and pay a substantial deposit, and feel that their long term "investment" in their property will outstrip the bank rates, particularly when they're getting TAXED on their savings !! Isn't about time the Govt stopped THAT, where's the incentive to save a cent ??

                  Cheers
                  Common sense isn't so common anymore

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                  • watchful
                    Forum Junkie
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 380

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CENTRAL55 View Post
                    Very true but frankly I'm thrilled that they've had enough sense to save for, and pay a substantial deposit, and feel that their long term "investment" in their property will outstrip the bank rates, particularly when they're getting TAXED on their savings !! Isn't about time the Govt stopped THAT, where's the incentive to save a cent ??

                    Cheers
                    Well done from me also. I can imagine your sense of pride. I strongly get the feeling that they will not live to regret their decision.

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                    • CENTRAL55
                      Freshie
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 79

                      #11
                      Originally posted by watchful View Post
                      Well done from me also. I can imagine your sense of pride. I strongly get the feeling that they will not live to regret their decision.
                      Thanks, we can all but hope !!
                      Common sense isn't so common anymore

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                      • Green Fish
                        Fanatical
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 2074

                        #12
                        There's no tax on savings. There is a tax on income, which includes income from bank deposits, and wages, and rent from a tenant.

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                        • CENTRAL55
                          Freshie
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 79

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Green Fish View Post
                          There's no tax on savings. There is a tax on income, which includes income from bank deposits, and wages, and rent from a tenant.
                          Sorry, but you knew EXACTLY what I meant, there's a tax on the INTEREST on your savings (call it income if you must), which you had already paid tax on before you saved it (when it really WAS income), and that SUX cos not everybody can or wants to "invest" in something that gives them tax write-offs etc. We're talking about the ordinary, wage earning individual here as you well know, why be so darn pedantic about it.
                          Common sense isn't so common anymore

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                          • k1w1
                            Fanatical
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 1652

                            #14
                            That should be....

                            Sorry, but you knew EXACTLY what I meant. There's a tax on ...etc

                            Missed a full stop / new sentence.

                            Did you mention pedantry?

                            Well done to your kids, btw. Dunedin central is ok. Been there many times. Just like to take the piss. Actually, I live in Rodney, which I believe got 2nd place.

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                            • Green Fish
                              Fanatical
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 2074

                              #15
                              I'm also in Rodney: Pedant's Paradise.

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