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  • Libertas
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    • Jul 2006
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    Property Crash Now Inevitable - Kieran Trass

    Kieran Trass has made a press release calling a property crash of up 25% in some suburbs.


    Property Crash Now Inevitable

    Whilst it saddens me to be the bearer of bad news... the following press release has been issued today.

    Property Crash Now Inevitable

    The biggest property boom in New Zealand in 20 years is now set to end in a crash of a magnitude similar to the early 1990's, when property values fell by as much as 25%, according to property market analyst Kieran Trass of the property market research company SuburbWatch.

    The soft landing for property formerly expected is now "not even a remote possibility" according to the latest trend analysis SuburbWatch released today. "Many suburbs in the main cities of New Zealand have already evidenced value declines of as much as 10% in the final quarter of 2007. The falls were the result of an exceptionally weak market and the progression of the property cycle into the slump phase of the property cycle based on the combination of economic 'Key Drivers' of the property market. The negative trends became evident in July 2007 but we were hoping the market would show some signs of strength in the usually buoyant spring and summer seasons. That strength failed to materialise and indeed the market has continued to weaken even more rapidly since then. Dark clouds have gathered over the property market and unfortunately now we have the conditions which lead to a 'perfect storm' in our property markets."

    This year property values are expected to fall by 10% or more in some suburbs based on the statistical analysis models used by SuburbWatch. These models include the use of measuring each suburbs historic value growth rates throughout the last three property cycles, projected property value growth rates based on measuring moving average trends, the 'Elliot Wave Principle' as well as methods outlined in the book by Trass "Grow Rich With the Property Cycle".

    "We are heading into the worst property slump we have experienced in nearly 20 years. This slump will eclipse the soft slump of the late 1990's by far and will be more like the early 1990's slump when property values fell by as much as 25%".

    Trass has an impressive history of 'calling the market' fairly accurately and states his calls are "based on research and analysis of the best quality data available". He became frustrated in the 1990s at the lack of quality localised property price data and subsequently created the only property price Index for suburbs in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch (the SuburbWatch Index) which was based on 15 years of historic property sales data. In January 2002 Trass was "a voice in the wilderness" when he made a press release citing the many reasons we were racing into the "first property market boom of the 21stCentury". Then in 2004, when there was talk of a coming property crash, Trass issued another press release outlining "the so-called coming crash was called for the wrong reasons and the arguments for the crash lacked substantive fact and figures." Property values have risen by over 50% since then adding further weight to the validity of his research methods. He believes property values now may well retreat by up to 25% in some suburbs during this property slump, which is back to the price levels seen in 2006 "but our models do not imply values will fall back to the levels seen in 2004".

    In light of current property market trends and analysis of the current state of the markets key drivers he states "We now have an overwhelming amount of hard evidence that the market will suffer for quite some time. There's no light in sight at the end of this tunnel. The only good news that may be underpinning the market to a small degree is that employment levels remain very strong in light of the current labour shortage and we may be in for some minor tax cuts. However even strong employment levels are restricting the ability of our economy to grow as businesses cannot typically expand without employing more people and any tax cuts are expected to be inadequate to arrest the crash. With the current low level of net migration into New Zealand there is no-one to fill new jobs so businesses cannot easily expand".

    When asked the inevitable question of whether he has any vested interest in talking the market down by calling a crash for his own benefit he points out "my own property portfolio is not immune to suffering from the negative effects of a property crash, therefore like many other property investors I'm unlikely to have the resources to immediately cash in on the soft conditions. It's a hard call to make but certainly now one that is well justified. I've made it my job as a property market analyst to call the market as it is whether that be good, bad or as the case appears now, ugly, even if at times that has a negative effect on my own wealth creation through property investment". Trass, a property investor himself, has already experienced the soft market conditions first hand when selling properties recently. One property he took to auction late in 2007 was passed in after a top bid of 25% less than the properties registered valuation and a second property was recently sold for 10% less than its registered valuation.

    The most disturbing trends identified in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch include;

    More than 50% of all suburbs evidenced value falls in the final quarter of 2007, some by as much as 10%.
    All suburbs are expected to evidence value falls in 2008, some by more than 10%.
    Property sales volumes remain 40% less than a year ago and up to 70% lower in some suburbs.
    Auction clearance rates remain very low.
    The number of days it takes to sell a property has risen from 29 days on average in December 2006 to 36 days in December 2007.
    Net migration has slowed to a crawl of just 5,000 people per year on the back of the large amount of New Zealanders moving to Australia typically for higher incomes achievable there. That's the highest rate of migration to Australia in 20 years but typically we don't reach the peak of population exodus, to Australia from New Zealand, until we have an economic downturn which is expected to occur later in 2008 or maybe even in 2009.
    32% of all fixed mortgage borrowings expire in 2008, representing $41 Billion of mortgages. Currently these borrowers are paying 8.1% interest on average but they will be paying closer to 9.8% when they renew their fixed interest rates. That represents an extra $141 in interest per month on average or $1,700 per year for every $100,000 borrowed.
    Property is now less affordable that it has been for nearly 20 years.
    Inflation is strong impacting further on affordability and expected to remain strong in the first half of 2008 at least. Inflation does not automatically translate into property value rises.
    The number of people per household is now increasing for the first time in 5 years, indicating rents are becoming unaffordable for many renters, so for property investors, any rent rises look set to be potentially limited.
    Based on the latest trends - the Buy, Hold or Sell recommendations given by SuburbWatch are now to either Sell or Hold in every single suburb in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch. (Each specific suburbs data is available to paid subscribers to SuburbWatch).
    The wealth effect from housing is over, which will quickly flow on to slowing overall economic growth.


    Property Investors Beware

    The coming property crash called today by property market analyst Kieran Trass of SuburbWatch will affect all property investors according to Trass.

    "The coming property market crash means property investors need to focus on reducing debt as quickly as possible and strengthening their cash flows so they can weather this storm." In his personal experience Trass reflects on the property crash of the early 1990's when he got a second job "pumping gas" so he could afford to ride out the slump. Defaulting on mortgages was not a palatable option for me so generating extra cash flow was critical to my ability to retain my portfolio. His property portfolios value declined by 25% at that time resulting in a negative equity position for several years before rebounding in value by 100% as a result of the property boom of the mid 1990's."

    His advice for investors to make sure they can ride out the property slump includes;

    · Increasing cash flow.
    · Reducing living expenses.
    · Avoiding what he calls "the one bank trap" by spreading their lending across several banks
    · Making sure they are charging current market rents for their properties as "many investors fall into the trap of under renting their properties".
    · Adding value to rental properties "wisely" to increase rental income.

    Trass also stated "The good news for investors is that if they take a long term view we will definitely evidence another property boom in time. The property cycle does exist and surely as night follows day the market will eventually recover into another boom. Now is the time in the cycle for consolidation and patience by property investors". Trass wrote the best selling book "Grow Rich with the Property Cycle".



    Silver Lining in Property Crash
    for First Home Buyers

    The coming property crash called today by property market analyst Kieran Trass of SuburbWatch has a twist for first home buyers according to Trass.

    "Ironically the dark clouds gathering over the property market will have a particularly silver lining for first home buyers because they will be spoilt for choice when buying property. Keen vendors will be plentiful as over-extended borrowers compete to sell in the softening market."

    "Those wanting to get on the property ladder will finally get their opportunity during this slump because property will become much more affordable than it has been for many years."

    Trass also stated "The prospect of property values falling after first home buyers buy a property is often of little concern because their primary purpose for buying is usually to achieve long term security and a 'stake' in the property market rather than generating wealth or seeing their property value increase in the short term. First home buyers often just want to get off the 'rent trap' and have a place to call their own home."

    However he also issued this warning to tread very carefully. "When considering that first home purchase make sure you have adequate cash flow to comfortably service the mortgage repayments and ownership costs of owning the property because you don't want to get in a position where you cant meet the mortgage repayments. That could mean you are forced to sell the property for less than you paid for it and may result in you going bankrupt."
  • OllyN
    Fanatical
    • Dec 2004
    • 1041

    #2
    Purple Prose

    I thought some guy wrote a book on exactly the same subject a while back. Now what was it called...?? Something like?. Oh yes I remember.. "The Day the Bubble Bursts". Good read that.

    Seriously though, having read Kierans press release I find it short on facts and long on purple prose. While I agree that the market is in trouble, and may indeed fall back Kieran overlooks other factors that may minimise the fall out. e.g. a cut in interest rates, rising rents, proposed reductions in income tax, or government action should the situation become too serious ( as has happened overseas) etc

    Methinks Kieran is seeking publicity more than credibility.
    OllyN [email protected]
    Independent Property Consultant
    Residential and Commercial Solutions

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    • kieran
      Addicted
      • Oct 2003
      • 590

      #3
      Thanks Olly,

      My history of calling the market fairly well over many years should speak volumes.

      Publicity is a given when the media trust the messengers history.
      Kieran Trass

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      • Rhys
        Freshie
        • Jun 2005
        • 76

        #4
        I sense another headache comming on LOL

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        • 67910241
          Fanatical
          • Jan 2008
          • 1077

          #5
          Olly

          Originally posted by OllyN View Post
          I thought some guy wrote a book on exactly the same subject a while back. Now what was it called...?? Something like?. Oh yes I remember.. "The Day the Bubble Bursts". Good read that.

          Seriously though, having read Kierans press release I find it short on facts and long on purple prose. While I agree that the market is in trouble, and may indeed fall back Kieran overlooks other factors that may minimise the fall out. e.g. a cut in interest rates, rising rents, proposed reductions in income tax, or government action should the situation become too serious ( as has happened overseas) etc

          Methinks Kieran is seeking publicity more than credibility.
          I really can't see why the market now is not way more bloated, bubbly and open to a greater two-digit percentage loss than it was back in 2004/05 when the book you mentioned came out. There are far more "perfect storm" ingredients present now than there were three years ago. The only way to out of this one is inflation, which any reasonable investor will see for what it is. I seriously thought you'd agree with KT on this one. Maybe not with the very 25% estimate, but on a real value drop of some serious magnitude.

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          • Badger
            Fanatical
            • Feb 2008
            • 1796

            #6
            Originally posted by OllyN View Post
            I thought some guy wrote a book on exactly the same subject a while back. Now what was it called...?? Something like?. Oh yes I remember.. "The Day the Bubble Bursts". Good read that.

            Seriously though, having read Kierans press release I find it short on facts and long on purple prose. While I agree that the market is in trouble, and may indeed fall back Kieran overlooks other factors that may minimise the fall out. e.g. a cut in interest rates, rising rents, proposed reductions in income tax, or government action should the situation become too serious ( as has happened overseas) etc

            Methinks Kieran is seeking publicity more than credibility.
            I dont agree there OllyN. Low interest rates got us into this mess with easy credit from private bankers and central bankers who made more on fees than interest. So much credit creation = inflation so lowering rates only prolongs the malinvestment.

            Rising rents well I doubt Joe & Jane Sixpack with there 1.5% if that pay rise can keep up with real inflation running at more like 10% for the past 15 years or so. The numbers are manipulated for the benefit of the few.

            Any time the government gets involved it creates MARKET IMBALANCES and more shortages.

            Your solutions in my mind are like throwing petrol on the fire!

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            • Heg
              Fanatical
              • Jul 2005
              • 1309

              #7
              Then in 2004, when there was talk of a coming property crash, Trass issued another press release outlining "the so-called coming crash was called for the wrong reasons and the arguments for the crash lacked substantive fact and figures." Property values have risen by over 50% since then adding further weight to the validity of his research methods. He believes property values now may well retreat by up to 25% in some suburbs during this property slump, which is back to the price levels seen in 2006 "but our models do not imply values will fall back to the levels seen in 2004".
              Hmmm. This from The Herald today
              Mr Trass said his predictions were not always right.

              In 2004, he called for homeowners to beware of an impending crash. He acknowledged that property values rose by 50 per cent since then.
              Last edited by Heg; 13-02-2008, 09:37 AM.
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              • whitt
                Fanatical
                • Jun 2005
                • 3922

                #8
                Yes Heg.
                Two media items implying opposite of each other.

                A-First quote saying the research methods had validity. Then quote second saying predictions were not always right.

                B-First Saying the 2004 predicted crash lacked substantive fact and figures, whilst the second quote said in 2004 for homeowners to beware of an impending crash.

                Mixed messages from the media?
                Or just mixed up media publishing by the media?

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                • Gatekeeper
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                  • Jan 2004
                  • 1542

                  #9
                  My take was a slump due in 2004 (which is why I bought Ollies book, we agreed. It's the only property book I've every read), but then the OCR was kept on hold prior to the election (bad move, should have whacked it right up then), that changed things. I made a strategic move then, selling down and paying off debt, better too early as too late is disastrous. I was still heavy property, but diversified a bit. From that point I knew this would be a lot bigger. My posts have always reflected that, a large crunch, to equal the 70's or even 30's was inevitable. Just watching the last few years continue to build this bubble (globally) has been so scarey.
                  I'm happy with my position, self-employed but very part-time, and as mortgage rates go up, and inflation hits, my income is increasing very tidily indeed. If I buy more, I can't even see it on the horizon yet, it's way off.

                  I now live off my properties, that's what I got out of this cycle.
                  Find The Trend Whose Premise Is False - Then Bet Against It

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                  • PeterEmpowerEd
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 725

                    #10
                    For the curious (or students of history)...

                    Originally posted by whitt View Post
                    Two media items implying opposite of each other.
                    A-First quote saying the research methods had validity. Then quote second saying predictions were not always right.
                    B-First Saying the 2004 predicted crash lacked substantive fact and figures, whilst the second quote said in 2004 for homeowners to beware of an impending crash.
                    Originally posted by Gatekeeper View Post
                    My take was a slump due in 2004 (which is why I bought Ollies book, we agreed. It's the only property book I've every read), but then the OCR was kept on hold prior to the election (bad move, should have whacked it right up then), that changed things.
                    Well, you weren't alone... it was being discussed as a fairly serious possibility by all sorts of people. The pre-election intimidation of RBNZ re OCR played a big role in extending the boom, in my opinion.
                    As I've said before, what's good about property is you make your own calls -- and live by them.

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                    Peter Aranyi
                    Editor - How to Survive and Prosper in a Falling Property Market
                    Available at Empower Education now - but not due in bookstores until the end of March.
                    (Use this link until the PT bookstore is back online.)
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                    • kieran
                      Addicted
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 590

                      #11
                      This is fact.
                      Mr Trass said his predictions were not always right.
                      The following statement though is MIS-QUOTED (have emailed Anne Gibson accordingly).
                      In 2004, he called for homeowners to beware of an impending crash. He acknowledged that property values rose by 50 per cent since then.
                      Heres what the press release below states and which Im sticking by;

                      Then in 2004, when there was talk of a coming property crash, Trass issued another press release outlining "the so-called coming crash was called for the wrong reasons and the arguments for the crash lacked substantive fact and figures."
                      Thanks Peter havent seen that ad for years! The ad that Peter A has posted was not about any CRASH but the Slump phase of the cycle. The hot topic at that time and all the talk around town was about the possible crash/slump.

                      Heres the rub! People often think that Slump and Crash are the same thing, they are not.

                      as proven by my research not every slump means an automatic crash. However a slump may or may not evidence a crash and back in 2004 the property cycles Key Drivers clearly DID NOT indicate a crash was on the horizon.

                      Now 4 years later things are different... This slump will now crash.

                      Its one thing to say "I told you so" its absolutely another to get your timing as right as practically possible.
                      Kieran Trass

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                      • PeterEmpowerEd
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 725

                        #12
                        Boom-slump-bust(?)-upturn...

                        Originally posted by kieran View Post
                        Thanks Peter havent seen that ad for years!
                        No, I hadn't either, Kieran, but I've been working through my files and archives in preparation for our copyright court case with your new friend and business partner and came across your ad among Richmastery's (including some the Advertising Standards Authority deemed "did not strictly observe the basic tenets of truth and clarity").
                        As this quaint doggerel points out, a man is known by the company he keeps.

                        Originally posted by kieran View Post
                        The ad that Peter A has posted was not about any CRASH but the Slump phase of the cycle. The hot topic at that time and all the talk around town was about the possible crash/slump.
                        I do not to profess to be an expert, as you clearly do.
                        But I do recall the book that started the 'hot topic' discussion and all that buzz about the property cycle (well, this time around -- as you know, the property cycle is as old as the hills) ... after all, I published it:


                        Note the subtitle: How to Profit from the Coming Property Slump.
                        Kieran, I think you will recognise from personal experience that sometimes the detail of what an author says over one hundred or more pages can get quite distorted in the in the re-telling. This, of course, is not just a media phenomenon.

                        Originally posted by kieran View Post
                        Heres the rub! People often think that Slump and Crash are the same thing, they are not.
                        No, quite right. They're not. (Sorry, what else can I say?)

                        But now you are picking a crash. Good on you for taking a stand. I like that.
                        When, exactly? It's not clear from your 1,800 word press release.

                        - Peter

                        PS Of course, some 'leading experts' might preach this could happen...
                        (I wonder how those capitalised mortgages they were spruiking are working out now?)

                        Peter Aranyi
                        Blog: www.ThePaepae.com

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                        • Tucker
                          Fanatical
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 1327

                          #13
                          I agree totally with Olly on this one as I think interest rates will be lowered later this year and earlier if there's signs of any trouble or major slow down. If business confidence slips and housing slows considerably like is being said then maybe even by the second or third quarter.
                          Rents are rising, have noticed in the Manukau area (Howick specifically) that property managers are crying out for stock, they have nothing to rent out and have people waiting. I have a property in Howick that I am selling and it has an appraisal of $500 - $600 p/w - I was offered $800p/w. One agent said what is contributing to it is some investors selling up so less stock available to rent.
                          Last edited by Tucker; 13-02-2008, 03:19 PM.
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                          • OllyN
                            Fanatical
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 1041

                            #14
                            What's the Difference?

                            Kieran, what is the difference betwen a "slump" and a "crash"?

                            if Joe Bloggs house drops in value from $400k to $300K during a slump, is that better than if it drops $100K during a crash?

                            The only possible difference I can see is timing . Maybe slumps take 12 months to occur and crashes take 11 months.

                            You tell me.
                            OllyN [email protected]
                            Independent Property Consultant
                            Residential and Commercial Solutions

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                            • 67910241
                              Fanatical
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 1077

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tucker View Post
                              Rents are rising, have noticed in the Manukau area (Howick specifically) that property managers are crying out for stock, they have nothing to rent out and have people waiting. I have a property in Howick that I am selling and it has an appraisal of $500 - $600 p/w - I was offered $800p/w. One agent said what is contributing to it is some investors selling up so less stock available to rent.
                              I have noticed that the rents were rising too, and I have also noticed that there's a low number of "to rent" ads nowadays, which probably helps the prices rise. I've also heard the same thing you heard from the agent.

                              While I do believe the rentals could easily go 10% up in any single year (such as 2008 for instance), there's only so far they can go in the medium term without a) becoming simply unaffordable to the renters given their disposable income even if they wanted to bid up, thus forcing them to "improvise" and increase the size of houshold, downsize, move out of town, country and just as importantly b) contribute to the inflation figure and increase the odds of the RB rising the cash rate, causing harm to everyone especially to nz borrowers.

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