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    Hi everyone,

    I just wanted your opinion on purchasing a second property in Chch.

    I recently purchased a rental property for $366k with a deposit of a $100k.

    I am considering getting another property around the same price of ~$350k, however when I spoke to my bank manager I was given the following calculation;

    Security
    $292,000 being 80% of the first home value
    $280,000 being 80% of a new investment costing $350,000
    $572,800 Security value to lend to.

    Funding:
    $266,000 existing approval.
    $350,000 possible new purchase
    $42,200 minus cash required.
    $572,800 possible new funding

    I just wanted to find out why he has not valued the first home at a higher value, to enable me to leverage more, therefore reducing the amount of capital needed for the second home? Is this normal for bank managers, or would I need to obtain my own valuation of the home to prove to the bank that it is worth more?

    Appreciate all thoughts.

    Kind regards,

    Ed.

  • #2
    Originally posted by edm View Post
    or would I need to obtain my own valuation of the home to prove to the bank that it is worth more?
    Yes.
    But make sure you use a valuer approved by the bank.
    It is still at their discretion as to whether they use that valuation or stay with the 366k purchase price.

    I just wanted to find out why he has not valued the first home at a higher value,
    Because he is not a registered valuer, and he has to show proof to his credit risk department that the property is worth more than 366.

    PS: Small point, but I make it 43.2k deposit required.
    Last edited by speights boy; 11-10-2013, 05:17 PM. Reason: ps

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    • #3
      Hi,

      Thank you for you time in replying.

      Ed.

      Originally posted by speights boy View Post
      Yes.
      But make sure you use a valuer approved by the bank.
      It is still at their discretion as to whether they use that valuation or stay with the 366k purchase price.


      Because he is not a registered valuer, and he has to show proof to his credit risk department that the property is worth more than 366.

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      • #4
        Probably valued it at RV

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        • #5
          Sums are right ( almost... see speights boys post ) Just written confusingly. See below if it makes it clearer.

          Security
          $292,800 being 80% of the first home value
          $280,000 being 80% of a new investment costing $350,000
          $572,800 Security value to lend to.

          Funding:
          $292,800 ($266,000 existing approval. + $26800 to get LVR to 80%)
          $280,000 (leveraging new purchase of $350,000 to LVR 80%)

          $572,800 Total funding the bank will lend you at 80%

          You already have used $266,000 of this maximum lending, leaving you $306,800 that the bank will lend you, i.e. a shortfall of $43,200 you need to 'find' for a deposit.


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          • #6
            Hi Ed,

            Generally banks wait a certain period before allowing revaluations on a property. From my experience this is 6 months.

            So if you have purchased your first property recently, this might be within their time period, so might not allow a revaluation.

            Best thing to do is ask your bank manager why.

            Ross
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