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I've always felt that the best protection for my investments was to have happy tenants. In my opinion happy tenants are less likely to cause headaches.
Having a property that my family would be happy to live in is a good starting point so insulation and heatpumps were amongst the first improvements I made. Having the rent a little below market rate also helps.
It's not charity when they are acting as caretaker and major investment strategy for my kids tertiary education and my retirement.
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Originally posted by Perry View PostYes - you are. You said:
Heat is required to create a warmer home. Insulation does not do that.
How’s this
Adding insulation will make warmer homes (once you have a form of heating running inside the house which every house must have anyway)
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Originally posted by BDub View PostOkay, so you want them to change the wording to keep you happy?
How’s this
Adding insulation will make warmer homes (once you have a form of heating running inside the house which every house must have anyway)
Without insulation heating will cost more and likely not happen to the same extent - outcome will likely be a colder house.
Even without adding heat from a source like a heat pump an insulated house will hold the heat it absorbs during a warm day for longer into the evening - an insulated is 100% zero heat gain or loss. You will get heat gain through the windows during the day and then draw the curtains and retain that 'free' heat.
Insulation will make for a warmer house.
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Originally posted by BDub View PostOkay, so you want them to change the wording to keep you happy?
What I want to see is PIs not being sucked in to using the same deceptive language, because it is essential for this gummint to succeed with its intentional deception, to mask the reality of what's going on. Here are some examples.
Lie No. 1
Healthy Homes Guarantee Act
It is not an Act to guarantee healthy homes.
It is intended to solely attempt to guarantee healthy residential rentals.
Lie No. 1b
In the Foreword of the so-called discussion document, Dhil Twitford says
We plan to modernise the law to ensure rental houses are warm and dry . . .
Did you see what Phil did, there?
He went from implying-by-the-name that the Act would produce [warm and dry] Healthy Homes to the Act producing warm and dry rental homes, only. (Hoping you wouldn't notice the switch)
And no, Phil won't be coming round to stoke the fire at your tenant's place! Later, he fudges the matter further (he is a politician of muddied brain, after all!) as he says:
Lie No. 2
It will be the responsibility of the landlady to make sure a property is able to be kept warm and dry.
Did you see what Phil did, there? Again. (Hoping you wouldn't notice and he seems to have succeeded in your case.)
Hoping no one would notice, he went from ensuring rental houses are warm, to rental houses being able to be kept warm.
Subject - according to the said discussion document - to vote-for-Phil-type tenant 'behaviour.' (Whatever behaviour might mean! Knowing Phil's likely core voter support, perhaps spending the winter energy grant on booze, baccy, betting and takeaway bangers?)
And - as even you accept - adding insulation will not ipso facto make a house warm.
Every time you - or anyone - uses the word insulation in a way that infers that it will make residential rentals warm[er] (and dry), you play into the hands of the political spin doctors, by repeating and reinforcing their lie, just as they planned you would. I.e. You become a liar, just like them, by associated inference.
Originally posted by BDub View PostOkay, How’s this: Adding insulation will make warmer homes (once you have a form of heating running inside the house which every house must have anyway)
How will the "form of heating running inside the house which every house must have" make an insulated house warmer if the form of heating is not turned on?
Go back and read Flyernzl's post again!
He can't make it any clearer than that.
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Originally posted by Perry View PostThe gummint spin doctors? Even if I wanted to, they only obey their political masters.
What I want to see is PIs not being sucked in to using the same deceptive language, because it is essential for this gummint to succeed with its intentional deception, to mask the reality of what's going on. Here are some examples.
Lie No. 1
Healthy Homes Guarantee Act
It is not an Act to guarantee healthy homes.
It is intended to solely attempt to guarantee healthy residential rentals.
Lie No. 1b
In the Foreword of the so-called discussion document, Dhil Twitford says
We plan to modernise the law to ensure rental houses are warm and dry . . .
Did you see what Phil did, there?
He went from implying-by-the-name that the Act would produce [warm and dry] Healthy Homes to the Act producing warm and dry rental homes, only. (Hoping you wouldn't notice the switch)
And no, Phil won't be coming round to stoke the fire at your tenant's place! Later, he fudges the matter further (he is a politician of muddied brain, after all!) as he says:
Lie No. 2
It will be the responsibility of the landlady to make sure a property is able to be kept warm and dry.
Did you see what Phil did, there? Again. (Hoping you wouldn't notice and he seems to have succeeded in your case.)
Hoping no one would notice, he went from ensuring rental houses are warm, to rental houses being able to be kept warm.
Subject - according to the said discussion document - to vote-for-Phil-type tenant 'behaviour.' (Whatever behaviour might mean! Knowing Phil's likely core voter support, perhaps spending the winter energy grant on booze, baccy, betting and takeaway bangers?)
And - as even you accept - adding insulation will not ipso facto make a house warm.
Every time you - or anyone - uses the word insulation in a way that infers that it will make residential rentals warm[er] (and dry), you play into the hands of the political spin doctors, by repeating and reinforcing their lie, just as they planned you would. I.e. You become a liar, just like them, by associated inference.
There again, you play right into the hands of the political liars and spin doctors.
How will the "form of heating running inside the house which every house must have" make an insulated house warmer if the form of heating is not turned on?
Go back and read Flyernzl's post again!
He can't make it any clearer than that.
Okay so what if he adds “once the heat source is turned on” ? Will that make it better for you?
You can sit there and pick at the words all day while wearing your tin foil hat, it doesn’t bother me.
Insulating a home makes it warmer and healthier. If you can’t understand that and want to pick away at the words, go for it. Anyone with common sense can see that it does.
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Originally posted by BDub View PostInsulating a home makes it warmer and healthier.
You have certainly confirmed your mental acuity status.
I see an opening for you as a spin doctor for Dhil Twitford.
Apply immediately.
He needs all the help he can get.
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Originally posted by Perry View PostUtter nonsense for reasons already given.
You have certainly confirmed your mental acuity status.
I see an opening for you as a spin doctor for Dhil Twitford.
Apply immediately.
He needs all the help he can get.
Make sure you tell them that Phil shot JFK too, and pink batts funded his assasination
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Spies, Spies and More Spies
Originally posted by BDub View PostHaha, you seem a little hurt, it’s okay. Just make sure you insulate your property’s. Make them warmer and healthier for your lucky tenants.
Make sure you tell them that Phil shot JFK too, and pink batts funded his assasination
Just so you know, "assasination" is spelled with a double s in both places and "property’s" plural is spelled properties.
Do you know how a spell checker works? Doh! Obviously not.
All my residential rentals already met the healthy homes/rentals/whatever bogus standards.
Say 'hello' to Phil the Dhil from us, when you report back on your fifth columnist subversion efforts.
Don't expect a good grading.
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Originally posted by Perry View PostI suspect that by now, it's obvious to most hard-bitten PT Forumites that you're one of Phil's shills, especially given the date you arrived at these parts. Not a particularly bright one, at that!
Just so you know, "assasination" is spelled with a double s in both places and "property’s" plural is spelled properties.
Do you know how a spell checker works? Doh! Obviously not.
All my residential rentals already met the healthy homes/rentals/whatever bogus standards.
Say 'hello' to Phil the Dhil from us, when you report back on your fifth columnist subversion efforts.
Don't expect a good grading.
We have gathered your info and we are passing it onto branz, we are going to stop the new builds having insulation and we are after your thoughts on double glazing, if that does not help with warmer healthier homes will will also remove that from the building code. Please let us know on anything else that isn’t worth while.
Not too fussed about the spell check, sitting here on a smart phone that I can barely see and fingers that take up 4 letters.
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Since we are now focusing on the potential benefits of insulation and heating here is an interesting article for Whaleoil today concerning state housing tenants living in cold houses- after a heat source was provided by HNZ.
CraigLast edited by Courham; 09-10-2018, 09:01 PM.
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Oh, dear, oh dear, oh dear.
That just can't be true.
Dhil Twitford said all such things would be in the past after he said that the gummint
* is committed to addressing the problem on several fronts (maybe commit referred to asylum fronts?)
* setting up KiwiBuild to build 100,000 [over ten years] homes for first home buyers . . . (18 done, 19,980 to go in year two)
* plans to modernise the law to ensure rental houses are warm and dry.
How's that working, so far, Dhil?
That report must be a media beat up.
It simply can't be true.
Dhil Twitford has it all under control - you'll see.
(If you live to 200)
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I'll wager those wall mounted heaters have a thermostat - for cool, warm or hot settings.
And the thermostat is set on cool - perhaps HNZ has done that or perhaps the tenants don't know how to work it.
I'm surprised the reporter didn't have a quick look at that while doing the interview.
But then again, some reporters aren't too bright.
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I think the supply of the main heating source should be it, i.e heat pump in living room. The option of LL’s supplying portable heating devices seems too far. Could end up supplying one set of slippers if your property has hardwood floors if it carry’s on
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