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    Todd Muller's pro-China comments set off alarm bells.
    Serious support for the Hong Kong protestors would be more welcome.
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    I like him - as Nikki Kaye said they needed a balance between conservative and liberal and they have now with these two. Todd spoke very well on RNZ this morning and he didn't have it all his own way. Todd had to fight his corner and did it well. There's no doubting the pedigree in the party but while Nats are clearly the better team for the rebuild - Jacinda is a shoe in as her voting public are behind her 100%. And then if that's not enough she's got the global stage to fall back on and as a communications expert she'll use it surreptitiously as a reminder 'she's got this'.

    cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC View Post
    Todd Muller's pro-China comments set off alarm bells.
    Serious support for the Hong Kong protestors would be more welcome.
    Yup.

    I was wondering about that.

    But for another reason.

    In a world were America and China have such opposing political beliefs, can you be friends with both?

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    It's a shame UK had to give up HK and the writing been on the wall ever since. Taiwan's days are probably numbered too. I can see China grabbing them within the next couple of years.

    For NZ - we need China...more than they need us.

    Why not let the Chinese students back in - it's worth billions to our economy and they can go into quarantine etc before they're let loose with mum and dads loaded up credit card. The food outlets need them, then there's the clothes, electronics etc.




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    we do 40% trade with China
    there can not be a recovery unless that market is restored? This is the reality of the real world

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    Quote Originally Posted by donna View Post
    It's a shame UK had to give up HK and the writing been on the wall ever since. Taiwan's days are probably numbered too. I can see China grabbing them within the next couple of years.
    …..
    cheers,

    Donna
    Did you know that Britain took the island during the opium wars?
    China just wanted to stop the drug trade from destroying it's people.
    They had the death penalty for opium smuggling at the time.
    But Britian just wanted to keep pumping it in to China.
    It was Britain's superior technology that allowed it to force it's will.

    China may have dirty rivers now,
    but that's the price they were willing to pay to get superior technology,
    and a never ending stream of trained scientists to keep it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John the builder View Post
    we do 40% trade with China
    there can not be a recovery unless that market is restored? This is the reality of the real world
    Personally, I'd like to see a little more wisdom in our interaction with China.
    I'm sure most of the junk in the two dollar shops could be produced here for example.
    Giving jobs to many low expectation members of our society.

    That would pipe more cash back into our local system.

    Conversely, many sophisticated electronics are best done offshore.
    For example, those nanometre CPU masks don't suit backyard production volumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McDuck View Post
    Personally, I'd like to see a little more wisdom in our interaction with China.
    I'm sure most of the junk in the two dollar shops could be produced here for example.
    Giving jobs to many low expectation members of our society.
    It's incredibly difficult to make anything in this country for less than $2. Our labour is cheap, but not China-cheap. And we don't have the scale of demand (local or export) to hit peak production like they do. If suddenly they become $5-10 shops, would people still buy the crap? I am pretty certain they wouldn't, given simple inflation should have done just that over the last 25 years but hasn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthonyacat View Post
    It's incredibly difficult to make anything in this country for less than $2. Our labour is cheap, but not China-cheap. And we don't have the scale of demand (local or export) to hit peak production like they do. If suddenly they become $5-10 shops, would people still buy the crap? I am pretty certain they wouldn't, given simple inflation should have done just that over the last 25 years but hasn't.
    lol.

    How ever would we survive without cheap crap in our lives.

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    A MAGA hat? Really? SMH


 

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