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  1. #1
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    Default Any way to avoid absurd NZ building costs in the current market?

    $3000 a sqm is just absurd, cost me $750sqm in Qld. And thats with quality materials not Monolithic houses with joinery designed for 15 years life span.

    Is there any way to avoid the costs of Kiwi builds. What is the break down that is costing so much? If its project management I have a BSC and certifications in PPI and Prince 2 certs. And whilst Ive done IT PM, Im damn sure I could handle a building site. I also did labouring with my uncle who was a builder back in my Uni years.

    If its not project management, what is costing so darn much to build simple homes?

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    If its not project management, what is costing so darn much to build simple homes?
    Every man and his dog argues about this...
    Squadly dinky do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheMove View Post
    If its not project management, what is costing so darn much to build simple homes?
    Compare the cost of raw building materials - NZ vs Aussie.
    That's part of the reason.
    The other part are compliance costs (Council charges) + health & safety rules.
    Why don't you supply a comparison between Aussie and NZ breaking the costs into those three areas?
    We can then see what costs are controlled by the government.

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    Labour adds up. Even the apprentice builder is charged at $50 per hour .

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    labour in NZ is far cheaper than Aus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don't believe the Hype View Post
    labour in NZ is far cheaper than Aus.
    Labour isn't necessarily cheaper if you include productivity. We've used three different builders, all charged for their lunch-hour and travel time. Amortise that over the rate for work time and all of a sudden labour costs are high in NZ.
    Last edited by MargVan; 05-12-2019 at 09:35 AM. Reason: Typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by MargVan View Post
    Labour isn't necessarily cheaper if you include productivity. We've used three different builders, all charged for their lunch-hour and travel time. Amortise that over the rate for work time and all of a sudden labour costs are high in NZ.
    Labour only builders I've had haven't charged for lunch.
    You need better builders or be clear and agree what is charged for before hand.
    Or get a price for the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheMove View Post
    Is there any way to avoid the costs of Kiwi builds.
    Build in Queensland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Kane View Post
    Compare the cost of raw building materials - NZ vs Aussie.
    That's part of the reason.
    The other part are compliance costs (Council charges) + health & safety rules.
    Why don't you supply a comparison between Aussie and NZ breaking the costs into those three areas?
    We can then see what costs are controlled by the government.
    Building material costs are about the same for large purchases. Labour is cheaper, but perhaps question as to productivity being the same.

    The big difference is compliance and infrastructure costs, as well as tax differences. GST on Aussie building is only 8%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    Labour only builders I've had haven't charged for lunch.
    You need better builders or be clear and agree what is charged for before hand.
    Or get a price for the job.
    I only found out by checking times they were here vs what they were charging for. Had quite a barney with one of them about it. A bit of cheating they get away with often, I'd say.


 

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