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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Kane View Post
    You're right of course.
    School kids marching along the streets chanting "Leave the carbon in the soil" is far more important.
    Then they duck into Burger King and grab a crushed ice drink in a plastic container and sip it through a plastic straw.
    They are empowered!
    Plastic straws are dying, Bob! The sad thing is how quickly the terrible paper ones go soggy. And that society isn't yet ready for a semi-permanent metal straw - though the keep-cups are starting to catch on, so perhaps keep-straws will too in time.

    ... On the rest of your point as a whole, completely agree. Do love my crushed ice. That was your point, yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthonyacat View Post
    Plastic straws are dying, Bob! The sad thing is how quickly the terrible paper ones go soggy. And that society isn't yet ready for a semi-permanent metal straw - though the keep-cups are starting to catch on, so perhaps keep-straws will too in time.

    ... On the rest of your point as a whole, completely agree. Do love my crushed ice. That was your point, yes?
    Wasn't it grand being a kid.

    Where wealth was enough money to get you a burger and fries.

    And Aphrodite was your religion, in the form of the prettiest girl in school, (or maybe Adonis, for the girls).
    Or maybe even Mars, the god of war, if you were into sports.

    But now, in a scene similar to a biblical movie, tales of a strange religious gathering around a huge golden calf.
    Sigh, the grownups follow another distraction.
    All the while the first ancient earth goddess, Gaia, calls to the young.

    I'll say one thing for you primates, you're consistent.

    Myself, I'll be painting today, looks like a nice hot day, got some windows to do - some fantastic paints out now.

    righto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    O.K.

    So, no matter what, you would never protest against the socio-commie laws, rules and regulations of Taxcindarella, Dhil Twitford, et al?

    Just go with the flow.

    Never make counter-suggestions / representations / observations / comments?

    Just turn the other cheek, no matter what?

    Even if the socio-commies decided to 'nationalise' the private residential rental stock in NZ? Or would that be a step too far for you? I.e. As you handed over the keys, you might under-your-breath grudgingly mumble something, if that happened?

    The NZPIF has been 'captured' by the gummint, so they'll be no help while that remains the status quo.

    Anyways . . .


    If the govt went as far as nationalizing assets we'd have far bigger problems to deal with... and with this current bunch all you need to do is set up a tent on the front lawn and the govt will find a way to give the land back to you.

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    Default Bah! Humbug!

    I don't think the socio-commies would do that.

    For quite a while now, they've had another strategy that you might've noticed: control-by-regulation.

    * Yes, 'you' own it;
    * Yes, 'you' do the work;
    * Yes 'you' take the risks;
    * But no, we socio-commies control what 'you' can do with 'your' business.

    A small example, here.

    Then we have the taxpayer-funded-school lunches. (Sorry, 'free'-lunches)

    De-coded . . . .

    Keep voting for us and we'll feed your kids some lunch (courtesy of working taxpayers) so you Labour-voting parents have money for other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    I don't think the socio-commies would do that.

    For quite a while now, they've had another strategy that you might've noticed: control-by-regulation.

    * Yes, 'you' own it;
    * Yes, 'you' do the work;
    * Yes 'you' take the risks;
    * But no, we socio-commies control what 'you' can do with 'your' business.

    A small example, here.

    Then we have the taxpayer-funded-school lunches. (Sorry, 'free'-lunches)

    De-coded . . . .

    Keep voting for us and we'll feed your kids some lunch (courtesy of working taxpayers) so you Labour-voting parents have money for other things.
    and despite all their regulation whilst others are packing up their bat and ball and going home (i.e. selling) my profitability has gone through the roof... our asset values have skyrocketed and demand for what we sell is huge.

    I could have spent my time writing submissions to these fools which would have changed nothing or I could invest the same amount of time building a business plan to profit in the government proposed environment - if they implement their ideology we're ready to go. If they don't we continue business as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keys View Post
    Ever thought of asking the National party (government officials) that question?
    My source averred that it was many decades ago, so it's likely that only an avid archivist would have any idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthonyacat View Post
    ... On the rest of your point as a whole, completely agree. Do love my crushed ice. That was your point, yes?
    Yes!
    I'm partial to their super shakes as well.

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    when 98% of submissions are against a proposal and they go ahead anyways...

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/pro...d-to-meet-need

    you can spend an hour writing a submission or spend that hour planning your own high density project for the site you own near by...

    Which would you spend your time on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    Seems like a rhetorical as well as unasked question, Graeme. So . . . presuming you conceived the question on the basis that you already had your own answer, my question is:

    What do you think should be done (to best effect) in the face of the widespread, rampant and largely unjustified anti-LL sentiment and the consequential horrendous cost to the NZ taxpayer?

    By LLs in general and the NZPIF as well.
    They say there's POWER IN NUMBERS.
    Instead we are weak, fluffing around with sunset/beach seminars. Almost every so called property group incl. associations and groups just waltz around, making cat noises here and there.
    These so called leaders are not showing strong leaderships. No Strategy.
    If any other community were treated like this there would be riots.
    Last edited by Perry; 03-12-2019 at 12:25 PM. Reason: fixed quoted material

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
    They say there's POWER IN NUMBERS.
    Instead we are weak, fluffing around with sunset/beach seminars. Almost every so called property group incl. associations and groups just waltz around, making cat noises here and there.
    These so called leaders are not showing strong leaderships. No Strategy.
    If any other community were treated like this there would be riots.
    O.K. So there's power in numbers.

    Politics
    Remember that there are more tenants than LLs, so that has a huge impact on party political policies and legislation largely aimed at re-election.

    Associations
    Which comes first?

    The numbers to give the power?

    Or the association's actions to attract the numbers to give the association the power?

    If the latter, what do you suggest the actions should be?
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