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    Default Who will be the next Labour leader?

    If the Labour party is bright, they'll pick David Shearer.
    Why?
    He's photogenic.
    That's the main quality needed in a political leader.

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    I agree but suspect they will go with Cunliffe

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    On the VERY scientific Stuff poll *cough cough cough*, David Shearer is leading by a large margin.

    It doesn't matter who they go with, Labour needs to re-invigorate their policies so that they become more relevant to NZ voters.

    The rot started under Helen Clarke, when they became too intrusive into people's every day lives when they tried to legislate the water flow on shower heads. There's a couple of other instances but at the moment they elude me.

    NZ-ers don't like being micro-managed by ANY political party and when that happens, they vote against them.

    Remember, there's a difference between GOVERNANCE and MANAGEMENT. When you lose sight of the difference, you lose the people.
    Patience is a virtue.

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    I hope Cunliffe gets it - not because he is the best man but because he will ensure Labour gets no where near power at the next election

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    I saw a quick snip of Shearer on the TV something like ..." I should be leader because I faced down Somali gunmen ".... what a tosser

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    I vote they stick in Dan Carter (or some other equally famous person) that will win them some votes.

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    yeah - I saw that I stood up to Somali gunmen and they buckled quip as well - pathetic.

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    As I'm not a Labour voter I'd like them to pick Cunliffe and Mahuta. A bit like Tony Benn leading the British labour Party in the 80's, totally unelectable.

    Parker with a bit of media training might do well for them. At least he is sincere in his beliefs and I'd trust him to do what he has outlined to do.

    Shearer needs other people to say how brave he was in Somalia rather than saying it about himself. Again he'll learn and I think he is the person that National would least like Labour to choose. The quip about Key making money overseas and him helping people overseas is also a turn off. I applaud his efforts for humanity but again it is a step too far to beat his own drum about it.

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    If Cunliffe puts the Labour party first, he will withdraw his leadership challenge.
    If he puts himself first he will continue his challenge.
    We will see where his loyalty lies over the next two weeks.

    I expect him to continue his challenge and I hope he wins - I'm happy for Labour to remain in opposition after the next election.

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    leaders of the left

    have a terrible track record of doing what's best for the party and "taking the hint"

    rather they try to better share their inside knowledge on how much better they are than everyone else......

    rather memorably stated by goff whitlam, in 1975?, when after being sacked by the GG he stated

    "i cannot say i have been a good prime minister

    that is for the people of australia to decide

    i can only say

    i have been the best prime minister they have ever had"

    whitlam, lange, latham, hawke, keating, clarke, blair, brown

    not to say stalin mao, ceauchescu? pol pot and the kim family

    even helen

    bless her socks

    said she was surprised by how ungrateful we all were...
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