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    You continually misread what I write.

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    You continually misread what I write.
    example please

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    Quote Originally Posted by John the builder View Post
    example please
    I said:
    Catch chickenpox, recover and you strengthen the group immunity.
    Or get the vaccine.
    If you don't want the vaccine then catch chickenpox.
    To do neither is anti-social.
    You replied:
    It is not anti social to catch chicken pox it is natural condition and few of these diseases are life threatening if care is appropriate Polio is exception perhaps and vaccines justified,
    You agreed with me.
    And yet you object to my view:
    Your continual denigration of conscience as "stupid" is pathetic given these people may have good grounds. You really do little to dignify your otherwise reasonable points with personal attacks that are not justified.
    I'm struggling to follow your logic.
    You appear to read my posts differently to me.

    I'm also struggling to understand your references to WW2 and the Jews.
    Have I said anti-vaxxers should be forced to have the vaccine?

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    Have I said anti-vaxxers should be forced to have the vaccine?


    It has been hard to have a reasoned discussion under a banner that condemns anti-vaxers as "stupid" and the total lack of consideration for people with a contrary position. For many this is based on good faith and conscience. (and often also a good understanding of science despite your premises)

    You want to single people out for special attention? How is that not attempting to force people to your view?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John the builder View Post
    You want to single people out for special attention? How is that not attempting to force people to your view?
    I'm attempting to change the view of anti-vaxxers because their views can kill people.
    People have died due to the actions of anti-vaxxers.
    Calling these people stupid is an understatement.
    Whether they take the vaccine or not, is their call.

    Do you believe the claims of the anti-vaxxers?
    You haven't clearly stated your position.
    So far, you appear to be defending the freedom of anti-vaxxers - which is admirable - but are not actually an anti-vaxxers.
    What camp are you in?
    Have your urged your children/grandchildren to have the measles vaccine?

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    i doubt you 2 are going to change each other's views

    give it a break

    then let it die

    you'll feel better;o)

    i'll feel better

    i hope we'll all feel better
    Last edited by eri; 12-05-2019 at 10:27 PM.
    have you defeated them?
    your demons

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    But someone who's not an anti-vaxxer insists on having the last word on my thread.
    I can go on for ever.
    We might even set a record for most replies on a thread - only about 50,000 posts to go!
    C'mon John, hit that 'Reply' button.

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    antiv-axxers dont kill the measles does (in very rare cases mostly due to poor care or other pre existing conditions). Why dont we actually talk about issues that actually matter.

    I appreciate the more reasoned recent posts. It was the puerile arguments that got me going.

    but for me this really is the LAST WORD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John the builder View Post
    and the total lack of consideration for people with a contrary position.
    That's rich.

    Quote Originally Posted by Me
    Nope. The world is overpopulated as it is.
    Quote Originally Posted by John the builder
    this comment is disgusting and unnecessary.


    /snip/


    but for me this really is the LAST WORD.
    Last edited by Keys; 13-05-2019 at 01:26 PM.


 

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