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    Quote Originally Posted by John the builder View Post
    I defend a parents right to decide for themselves and their own children. It is a basic right to refuse medical treatment. If we do not allow for minority dissent we are on a slippery slope.
    And I'd defend the right of play centres etc to not allow those unvaccinated children on their premise.

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    but if your child is vaccinated there is no danger?? or is the issue really that many vaccinations are ineffective??

    what is the truth here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John the builder View Post
    but if your child is vaccinated there is no danger?? or is the issue really that many vaccinations are ineffective??

    what is the truth here?
    I believe a number don't work - this is where herd immunity comes in.
    Along with those to young to be vaccinated (who may also be in the building).

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    I have been accused of illogical thinking but this seems more applicable to those pushing for mandatory vaccinations?

    I suggest banning unvaccinated at pre schools and school is really just strong arm tactics to force the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eri View Post

    if it's on the rise

    and 300,000 die in 2019

    should anything be done?
    Nope. The world is overpopulated as it is.

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    Nope. The world is overpopulated as it is.
    this comment is disgusting and unnecessary.

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    i agree John that making vaccinations mandatory results in a loss of freedom

    but so is having to stop at red lights and stop signs

    and hand in ak47s

    imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by John the builder View Post
    BK this is insane

    you talk as if the unvaccinated are causing the problem

    the anti vaxers are not causing the measles. They are the victims?
    You are looking at this differently to everyone else.
    The unvaccinated are catching measles and spreading it around.
    They are the problem.
    Some people they spread it to will die.
    They are killers (is that slightly over the top? - just trying to convey to you how wrong your position is).

    Would you agree with this compromise - all anti-vaxxers should make contact with someone with measles and get infected.
    They should be isolated for this short time.
    They will then develop immunity and be similar to those who have been vaccinated.
    Problem solved.
    What is your response?

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    if you dont want measles then get a vaccination dont demonise those that in good conscience dont think it is right for them.

    calling anti-vaxers killers is silly and emotive BS.

    The people who die are not looking after themselves and the complications kill them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John the builder View Post

    calling anti-vaxers killers is silly and emotive BS.

    The people who die are not looking after themselves and the complications kill them.
    This is a seriously stupid remark.
    A 6 month old baby is not looking after themselves properly?
    A person who is immunocompromised (eg cancer patient) did not look after themselves?
    You are focusing on freedom of choice and are totally blind to medicine.


 

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