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  1. #151
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    Yip she nailed it but it won't make any difference.
    Anti-vaxers aren't using their brain - it is in being washed.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12272604

    Two unborn babies have died after their mothers caught measles during the recent outbreak of the disease.

    Auckland health officials, in their latest update, confirmed five pregnant woman have caught measles and two of those foetuses died.
    I notice the anti-vaxxers are never interviewed now.
    Thank goodness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Kane View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12272604

    I notice the anti-vaxxers are never interviewed now.
    Thank goodness.
    A grandchild of a friend is now in hospital with measles. Too young to be vaccinated. Caught it out somewhere.
    Now some mothers are too afraid to go out.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12272978

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    have you defeated them?
    your demons

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    One problem with this sort of 'discussion; is that the background (of either side) is not well [if at all] reported.
    Want a great looking concrete swimming pool in Hawke's Bay? Designer Pools will do the job for you!

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    More scientific evidence to support vaccines:
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...n-parties.html

    Two studies published on Friday have outlined how it works. Measles decimates antibodies produced by the body's immune system - tests done on unvaccinated children who caught measles found two months after the their bodies had fought off the virus, their antibody counts were up to 73 percent lower than normal, leaving them open to other infections.
    In tests on animals, five months after infection nearly two-thirds of their antibodies were still missing in action.
    "This immune-suppressant effect lasts for years - and is still present up to five years later," said Prof Michael Baker from the University of Otago's Department of Public Health.
    In contrast, the immune systems of vaccinated kids exposed to measles were unaffected.
    "This study yet again dispels the dangerous myths perpetuated by homeopaths and other 'natural' healers who claim that exposure of infants to natural infection is important to 'strengthen' children's immune systems," said Prof Nikolai Petrovsky at the Flinders University College of Medicine and Public Health.
    "This terrible misinformation has been used to justify not just refusals of parents to vaccinate their children but even the shocking practice where parents have infection parties where children are deliberately exposed to other children with measles or other viral infections in order to deliberately infect them.
    "Such practices should clearly be globally outlawed and parents subjecting their children to deliberate infection should arguably be faced with criminal charges as should any practitioners advocating or supporting such misguided behaviour."

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    Perhaps an anti-vaxxer could go to Samoa and explain to them how their measles situation came about.

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    Here's two nutters:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12288666


    The WAG and mother-of-two runs A$200-a-head ($211) workshops on the dangers of vaccinations and has nearly 25,000 Instagram followers, reports news.com.au.
    ...
    With her twin sister Stevie, who is also non-medically qualified, she runs a A$2000-plus course to "break mainstream" medical advice and practices called "Break Up With Your Bulls***".
    Seriously, making money from giving medical advice?
    While kids are dying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Kane View Post
    Seriously, making money from giving medical advice?
    While kids are dying?
    But people are paying?
    You need a workshop to ignore good advice? And pay for it?
    Stupid people being parted from their money.

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    Seems these anti-vaxxers are actually scammers exploiting the fears of others and giving medical advice.
    Why is the media giving them coverage?


 

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