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    Default Anti-vaxxers are stupid people

    I was reading recently about people who are opposed to the normal childhood vaccines.
    The article mentioned that anti-vaxxers come from all walks of life - there was even a GP who was anti-vaccine - this was given as an example of an intelligent person.
    Well, that is wrong.
    Every single anti-vaxxer is stupid.
    Without exception.
    They need to be bluntly told that.
    Perhaps any children in their care should be removed.
    I would like to see the media climb into the anti-vaxxers and expose their stupidity.
    Sadly, some reporters aren't quite bright enough to recognise stupid people.

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    People have valid concerned about side effects.
    They get dismissed as idiots - big business - and health care is a very big business - don't like awkward questions.
    Not as clear cut a problem as you propose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Kane View Post
    Every single anti-vaxxer is stupid. Without exception. They need to be bluntly told that.
    Would you please clarify, comrade Bob?

    1) Do you want to deny the anti-vaccination people freedom of choice?

    2) Do you want to deny the anti-vaccination people the right to free speech?

    3) Do you want both (1) and (2)?
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    I think there is a bit of truth on both sides. The more I research modern pharmaceuticals the more I am convinced they donít know what they are doing and it is all about money. Yes, vaccines stop many deaths, and vaccinating children prevents many deaths, deformities and wasted time, but on the other hand some of the ingredients may still cause brain damage to some infants if they have certain DNA defects that are unable to detox poisons as well as most people can.

    We also do not know what the difference may be to the human gene pool in preventing people naturally catching these diseases (which may kill some of us) and artificially immunising people. These vaccines have only been around a short time in the history of humans so time will tell what the effect is on the population. Things are never as black and white as they seem.
    LAJ

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    Default Just Who Is It That's Stupid?

    Is it not just a matter of acceptable risk? Perhaps considered along with a certain set of circumstances?

    If anything is stupid, it's the woodenheads and numpties who want to ban unvaccinated children from daycare centres and schools, etc.

    Do they have no faith in the efficacy of the vaccine that all the other kids have had?

    It seems not.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...re-school.html
    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world...en-from-school
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    with 100% vaccinations

    1 in 1,000? has a problem

    leading to 5? deaths a year across the western world

    a reasonable result compared to

    0% vaccinations + epidemics killing 1,000s every year


    but with 99% vaccinations

    the 1% who don't vacc

    would be safe from epidemics AND any possible side-effects

    PERFECT for over-protective mothers who don't believe in science

    but obviously if 1% get away risk free in both directions

    the other 99% will want to follow

    until eventually at 50%? we again have 1,000s of deaths...

    it's a bit like driving a proper 4WD on the school run

    if everyone drove safe small cars with crumple-zone there would still be a few deaths in car accidents and dead pedestrians

    but if YOUR family were in a massive 4WD with chassis rails your family would have ZERO deaths even as everyone else who got hit by you died!

    so eventually everyone drives big solid 4WD with chassis rails and no crumple zones

    until the death rates for everyone doubles

    as none of the accident energies are going anywhere but into destroying bodies

    pure short-sighted selfishness

    sadly

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    Quote Originally Posted by eri View Post
    PERFECT for over-protective mothers who don't believe in science
    Egregious false extrapolation.

    They may not want to take the small percentage risk that statistics and science has proven.
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    of course they don't

    but in not taking the risk

    they encourage others to also not take the risk

    to the point that everyone had to take a much greater risk
    have you defeated them?
    your demons

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC View Post
    Not as clear cut a problem as you propose.
    I'm afraid it is.
    The science is unequivocal on the side of vaccines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeye View Post
    I think there is a bit of truth on both sides.
    <snipped>
    Things are never as black and white as they seem.
    LAJ
    You are wrong.
    It's science on one side and stupidity on the other.


 

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