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  • #16
    The top of towners will continue on regardless, especially in Auckland, asset rich cash poor, who cares just hold on for the next cycle and watch your asset double in value.

    FH
    "DEBT BECOMES IRRELEVANT WITH INFLATION".

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    • #17
      Originally posted by donna View Post
      Yeah well said Nick. It's not a buyers market in Wellington - far from it. Esp. in the areas around the new roading (north). Homes in Kapiti are on the market 5 days and they're sold.

      cheers,

      Donna
      cheap sections, why not build ?

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      Last edited by BlueSky; 02-02-2019, 04:47 PM.

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      • #18
        a cheap AK section

        in 1987, was $25k

        in 2007-10, it was $250k

        i know of some sections

        carved from lead laden bush above a 24/7 noisy motorway in central auckland

        i think they want $850k...

        Last edited by eri; 02-02-2019, 07:13 PM.
        have you defeated them?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by BlueSky View Post
          a 100m2 build will cost no less than $250k and will take 12 months from settlement on that section to walking in the door so minimum total cost $450 on a half size section. By comparison an older 90m2 two bedroom in the same suburb on a full section asking price $340k.

          there is no housing price crisis in Wellington... you can still buy a 2br 20mins from the CBD for under $350k

          what people are complaining about is that in the popular areas some other person is willing to pay more to live there an I can or think I should have to! They’re effective complaining about the fact they live in a competitive world which is why the communist party is so popular.

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          • #20
            That were exactly my thoughts too.

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            • #21
              i wouldn't say it was a 'buyers market' in ak apartments either

              the level of unsold stock is not high enough and the prices asked not low enough

              flashier owner-occupier favoured buildings like; metropolis, statesman + connaught, have remained pretty solid, generally about $13,000m2 for renovated rooms

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              ^ was wanting $589,000 in Jul2018, now $555,000

              cheaper rental boxes like zest, aura + volt have dropped in some cases, often under $10,000/m2 depending on aspect + condition

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              a few buildings opened last year, queens residences, queens square, park residences, connect

              and a few more will in the years to come

              but at around $15,000/m2 they are not especially good investments with poor returns, who wants to pay $500pw for a single room

              and low capital growth prospects due to the inability of most kiwis to service the mortgage on what the council consider the lowest spec they'll allow

              so the market is partially stalled


              Last edited by eri; 03-02-2019, 03:57 PM.
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              • #22
                it must be pointed out though

                that aarron tunstal of impression is in possession of far better data and says

                AUCKLAND APARTMENT VALUES UP

                The average asking price on Auckland apartments was up 9.1% between December 2017 and December 2018. This is in sharp contrast to larger five-bedroom-plus homes, which dipped 7% in the same period. Overall, the Auckland market was rock steady at a 0.1% gain in asking prices.
                have you defeated them?
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                • #23
                  Are asking prices the same as selling prices?
                  Do selling prices match up with the asking prices of a few months earlier?

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                  • #24
                    not sure anyone has that data in any quantity

                    my own small slice

                    seems the same as usual

                    ie about -5% selling from asking
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Bob Kane View Post
                      Are asking prices the same as selling prices?
                      Do selling prices match up with the asking prices of a few months earlier?
                      For my sins I am on a couple of real estate agents mailing lists. One of them includes a table, maybe 30 items, showing asking and selling prices for each item. So maybe ask your friendly REA.

                      On a macro level and by broad location, Trademe reports asking prices in their monthly analysis, and REINZ reports actual median sale prices. Not apples and apples but a useful comparison.Could for example compare asking price for September with actual for December.

                      Trademe report for December-

                      property.trademe.co.nz/market-insights/property-price-index/provinces-end-2018-with-a-bang/

                      REINZ median prices up to December.

                      This chart tracks the monthly median house price. The data is sourced from the REINZ, and is disclosed regionally.

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