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    It is in both the best interests of landlord and tenant to have the carpet cleaned by a professional.
    I've had plenty of experience in this regard, maybe you haven't, whereby the tenant doesnt clean them at all or does a botchup job with a rug doctor. The end result is I have to call a professional in and the tenant gets landed with the bill.
    Last edited by donna; 16-10-2019 at 01:10 PM.

  2. #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsaneperson View Post
    Thats why the wording has to state ""we recommend the use of professional carpet cleaner"". Follow this up with a wee chat with the tenant and explain you are not demanding they do use a professional , only that it will serve their best interests to do so rather than they get billed afterward.
    As we were not aware of the law until all this came up as the property was being handled by a PM who had put it in the TA. In the end we got the carpets cleaned at our cost and have not billed the tenant. The PM said that 99% of tenants do get the carpets cleaned after their tenancy (as was our previous experience). We have learned from the experience that although a PM may put it in a TA it is not enforceable and we now know the law. We've now moved on, hopefully wiser.

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    It is illegal to require professional carpet cleaning at the end of the tenancy.


    If there is a problem with the carpet caused by the tenant beyond reasonable wear and tear, you are of course able to seek redress. But, let's be very clear and honest here, thats not what you are trying to do. You are trying to insist that the tenant gets the carperts professionally cleaned (which is unenforceable under the RTA) and if they don't want to you threaten them with a bill or black marks against their name in the TT.


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    Last edited by donna; 16-10-2019 at 01:10 PM. Reason: Still attacking the person - stop or you'll be banned
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    ^^^ Comes back with a bang ^^^

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    Spaceman and Keys are plain envious at their lack of perceived enforceability regarding this issue of getting the tenant to properly clean the carpets. Keys in particular is letting his own clients down by his short-sightedness.
    I've had no issues regarding the recommendation of carpets to be cleaned by a professional. Simply put it serves to protect the best interests of incoming and outgoing tenants as well as the landlord. Is it enforceable?
    Simply put if the carpets are found to be dirty and I have to get a professional to correct the situation, yes.

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    I said you couldn't take the tenant to the TT if the carpet wasn't left in a reasonable condition.
    The link has been provided earlier but I will post it again. Clearly you are unable to read it and comprehend. Ask a friend to explain what it says about requirements for professional carpet cleaning to be unenforceable

    http://www.tenancy.govt.nz/disputes/...cy-agreements/

    The clause is unenforceable and you know it, you admit that you had to change the wording.

    The requirement for the carpet to be left in a reasonably clean and tidy condition is completely enforceable.


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    Last edited by donna; 16-10-2019 at 01:07 PM. Reason: removed non compliant content
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    You are not seeing logic but have instead being duped into thinking carpet cleaning is unenforceable. This is how socialist propaganda works, you have swallowed it hook, line and sinker by not using your mind.
    Question : is it enforceable to have the property reasonably clean by the tenant?
    Answer :Yes, this apply to all parts of the house including carpets, and is subject to the original incoming inspection signed by tenant and landlord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsaneperson View Post
    You are not seeing logic but have instead being duped into thinking carpet cleaning is unenforceable.
    The requirement for the carpet to be left in a reasonably clean and tidy condition is completely enforceable


    Question : is it enforceable to have the property reasonably clean by the tenant?

    Did anybody claim otherwise??

    Question: Why did you change the wording of the clause in your TA??

    Question: What did your friend tell you about the link I posted?

    Question:what does this reasonably simple sentence mean to you …………
    A tenant only has to leave the premises in a reasonably clean and tidy condition. Tenants do not have to leave the carpets in a professionally cleaned state.
    …???


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    Last edited by donna; 16-10-2019 at 01:08 PM. Reason: removed offensive content
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  9. #79

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    Any part of the house that is not in a reasonably clean condition left by an outgoing tenant is subject to a professional cleaning service attending to it and subsequently the tenant will be billed.
    You somehow think that carpets are the exception.
    Well your irrational thinking serves no one but unruly tenants.
    Professional cleaning is enforceable, only dogmatic socialists think otherwise.
    I doubt if you have had the same experience as myself in attendance at TT , they ruled in my favour. Receipt states carpet was dirty signed Joe Blow , Professional Carpet Cleaner

    The tenant moved in with a clean carpet so the tenant moves out cleans the carpet recommended by a professional service ,because that is what is required to adequately clean them properly. Its a specialized service Spaceman, and carpets cost a small fortune and need to be looked after.
    Last edited by donna; 16-10-2019 at 01:09 PM. Reason: removed offensive content

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