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    Default Chinese builders in flat bush, reliable?

    Thinking of purchasing a new family home to eventuality turn into a rental in the flat bush Auckland area, and coming across a lot of Chinese company built houses. They look great from the outside, and reasonably priced, but how reliable are they?

    My wife is Chinese and she says that the general talk amongst the Chinese community is that they themselves wouldn't touch a Chinese built house with a barge pole. Apparently there are a lot of stories already from buyers finding faults and needing costly repairs within the first few months, and getting any warranty claim out of them is difficult.

    I then see articles like 'Opportunist builders, dodgy steel and shonky standards create new building crisis 'worse than leaky homes'' in the papers this which seem to confirm my fears.

    But is there really any merit to these concerns? Wouldn't a building report expose any faults?

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    Just like Iphones and Bosch are made in China, same as stuff from the 2 dollar shop, you get what you pay for.

    Flat Bush has been developed quite a lot in the past few years, predominately Chinese developers and builders. Generally, developers and builders, no matter the race ethnicity, will generally try to minimise costs.

    The area or end product dictates how much they can get away with.

    In a 3 mil house, the quality of materials and workmanship will need to be higher, as the buyers will be very picky.

    In a 1 mil house (Flat Bush), don't expect too much.

    Best advice I can give you is employ a builder inspector and go through the house with you.
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    Personally, I would avoid buying in Flat Bush right now, as it's a buyers market there.

    Lots of cookie butter homes being built, all look the same.

    Worse are the streets being quite narrow, and each house is like 5-6 bedrooms, many are 4 + 2, so many cars parked on the street.
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    My concern is that Chinese builders could be applying dodgy practices (i.e more than just regular cost cutting on materials done by kiwi builders, but cost cutting on labor and building skills too) which means that the houses may pass compliance now, but not be good for a long term hold. The news stories with quotes from inspectors seem to indicate that a lot of houses being build in the FB area have blatant problems. In 5-10 years time when problems start to show, those Chinese companies may have completely vanished rendering any builder guarantees invalid. Kiwi companies like Fletcher will still most likely be around, so they have an incentive to build longer lasting quality.

    Quote Originally Posted by GLin View Post
    Personally, I would avoid buying in Flat Bush right now, as it's a buyers market there. .
    If it's a buyers market (lowered prices), isn't it ideal to purchase now, especially for a long term hold? Assuming a long lasting building of course.

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    i wouldnt buy a house built by chinese builders, call me racist if you like, i spent a month in china and as far as in concerned i wouldnt trust any of them, dodgy scheming con artists

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLin View Post
    Personally, I would avoid buying in Flat Bush right now, as it's a buyers market there.
    Forgive my ignorance Gary, but is a buyers market not by definition a good place/time to buy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthonyacat View Post
    Forgive my ignorance Gary, but is a buyers market not by definition a good place/time to buy?
    Well it's a personal choice but I won't buy there...
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    I drive past there every week and it does seem very cookie cutter looking, to keep costs down I suppose, I can see this bringing down the value in Flatbush for sure. The streets are another problem as most cars will be forced to park on a road which has no room, another problem for drivers in each street.

    I wouldn’t live on a street which could not fit 4 cars abreast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frezzinghot View Post
    I drive past there every week and it does seem very cookie cutter looking, to keep costs down I suppose, I can see this bringing down the value in Flatbush for sure. The streets are another problem as most cars will be forced to park on a road which has no room, another problem for drivers in each street.

    I wouldn’t live on a street which could not fit 4 cars abreast.
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