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  • #61
    Originally posted by eri View Post
    The other big headwind for the economy was likely to be a slowdown in migration in 2019 and 2020.

    Infometrics forecasts the annual net migration gain will fall

    from 68,900 (for the year to March) to below 17,000 by early 2021.


    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=12031276


    Originally posted by Davo36 View Post
    How on earth would you forecast this? Like how can anyone look a few years out and decide immigration will be up or down?
    They can't. They're uneducated guesses pontificated by the over-qualified. Attention seekers, all.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by eri View Post
      The other big headwind for the economy was likely to be a slowdown in migration in 2019 and 2020.
      Infometrics forecasts the annual net migration gain will fall
      from 68,900 (for the year to March) to below 17,000 by early 2021.

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=12031276

      Originally posted by Davo36 View Post
      How on earth would you forecast this? Like how can anyone look a few years out and decide immigration will be up or down?
      Depends on where you purchase your crystal ball.

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      • #63

        Interesting to note:

        1) immigration down significantly in 2020 compared to 2019 - https://www.interest.co.nz/property/...pared-year-ago

        2) house prices, meanwhile have been rising - That means the national median price rose 18.5% year-on-year. - https://www.interest.co.nz/property/...000-last-month

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Chris W View Post
          Interesting to note:

          1) immigration down significantly in 2020 compared to 2019 - https://www.interest.co.nz/property/...pared-year-ago

          2) house prices, meanwhile have been rising - That means the national median price rose 18.5% year-on-year. - https://www.interest.co.nz/property/...000-last-month
          Yes, well spotted.

          So, you need to compensate for lag.

          Often a cause and effect don't occur at the same time.

          When there's a backlog of demand, the price won't drop until it's met.







          Last edited by McDuck; 17-12-2020, 06:32 AM.

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          • #65
            Another interesting thread of opinions and guesstimates to look back on.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Perry View Post
              Another interesting thread of opinions and guesstimates to look back on.
              God your repetitive Perry

              Say something anything original

              Please!

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              • #67
                Better to avoid empty guesses and risk being perceived as repetitive than to make so many wrong predictions and remove all possible doubt.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Perry View Post
                  Better to avoid empty guesses and risk being perceived as repetitive than to make so many wrong predictions and remove all possible doubt.
                  But your the one asking for all the predictions?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Perry View Post
                    Better to avoid empty guesses and risk being perceived as repetitive than to make so many wrong predictions and remove all possible doubt.
                    You need to have doubt in any investment decisions, if you can't critique your own decisions your living in an non existent realty.

                    Fyi I have a 94% success rate in all my economic predictions, perhaps you should highlight that instead of the other 6%.
                    Last edited by Jeffa; 06-10-2021, 09:32 AM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by chook View Post

                      But your the one asking for all the predictions?
                      And he wonders why very few forum members reply to his request.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by chook View Post
                        But your the one asking for all the predictions?
                        Can't see how you arrive at that position.
                        I'm bringing them up to show that most of them - the biggest majority - are wrong.
                        It's all about credibility and how that has an impact on the standing of the poster making predictions.
                        Empty vessel makes loudest noise.

                        One of many examples . . .

                        Originally posted by Jeffa View Post
                        No need to quarrel my fellow capitalist!
                        Jeffas predictions are always accurate! ALWAYS!!
                        DISCLAIMER:King Jeffa has a margin of error within 3 to 5%. Time frames can very 3 to 6 months.
                        Originally posted by Wayne View Post
                        Didn't you predict negative OCR by years end?
                        Originally posted by Jeffa View Post
                        Yes and I was WRONG..WRONG with a capital W!
                        Did I say I was wrong? Oh yes I said it I was WRONG.

                        Don't worry Wayne I'm wiping away my crocodile tears with all the money I made this year..

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Perry View Post
                          Can't see how you arrive at that position.
                          I'm bringing them up to show that most of them - the biggest majority - are wrong.
                          It's all about credibility and how that has an impact on the standing of the poster making predictions.
                          Empty vessel makes loudest noise.

                          One of many examples . . .




                          Good god Perry for me to go back through hundreds if not thousands of post show's how little of a life you have.

                          Negative interest rates are coming I still stand by that prediction.

                          Just not in this economic cycle.

                          Today's increase as was in 2014 a prelude of what is to come.

                          And you need to work on your mathematics

                          1 of my predictions doesn't represent a majority dumb as.
                          Last edited by Jeffa; 06-10-2021, 02:45 PM.

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                          • #73
                            And Perry if you think I'm going to stop predictions think again.

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                            • #74

                              Originally posted by Jeffa View Post
                              1 of my predictions doesn't represent a majority dumb as.
                              No, it shows you lack credibility in such things. No more, no less. It was only one example. There were others which you admitted to and I did not have the will or time to find them all. You seem oblivious to the law of holes. (Evidenced by your follow-up post.)

                              Please go back to your Conspiracy Theories sandpit and play there.

                              But on the price and immigration model, it does seem almost certain that 'forecasts' and 'modelling' are predictions by another name and just as bad as predictions when it comes to proven accuracy.

                              Recall the spectre of the tens of thousands of SARS-COV-2 deaths in NZ computer 'modelling' from some Auckland Ivory Tower wallah.

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                              • #75
                                oday, 03:02 PM
                                Originally posted by Judge View Post
                                Perry are you asking people to make predictions so you can tells us in 6 months they did not come true? Everyone is sick and tired of this game...


                                A post 18 months ago on another thread from another pissed off forumite

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