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  1. #1
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    Default Builders to Insure?

    https://www.interest.co.nz/property/...surance-scheme

    I think this is a really good idea actually. There's no reason at all for the council to be the entity picking up the costs when things go bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davo36 View Post
    https://www.interest.co.nz/property/...surance-scheme

    I think this is a really good idea actually. There's no reason at all for the council to be the entity picking up the costs when things go bad.
    the council are the ones clipping the ticket and inspecting and passing the plans drawn up by architects and designers.........the builders build to the council approved plans using the products specified by the architect and passed by the council why should the builder be liable and have to carry what will be a expensive insurance

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    Another cost for home buyers. Add it to H&S costs and everything else that has made it cost prohibitive to go above one storey. Builders will pass on every cost they bear... just like every other business must do.
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    But, but, but hang on - you people.

    This will all make housing more affordable, along with double glazing, enhanced insulation requirements and even WoFs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    But, but, but hang on - you people.

    This will all make housing more affordable, along with double glazing, enhanced insulation requirements and even WoFs.
    Like leaky homes was a good idea?

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    So what is the incentive for more young guys and girls to get a trade as a builder then? Seems as if they are intended to eventually be a scapegoat for any bad design or sh&#ty product that passes BRANZ appraisal and is used on the project.
    The houses that had a tendency to leak invariably had no eaves for a start and the design of these places was market driven. The style doesn't suit our climate but if that's what the client wants then that is what is drawn up by the draughtsman or architect. The builder just follows the plan and hopefully just sticks with the specs.

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    Default Bleating Up The Wrong Tree

    I concur with Meehole and the builders-as-scapegoats thing. I've had dealings with a Building Certifier (now retired) who told me a lot about how a certain section of the timber industry conned BRANZ / the gummint into accepting timber that had not been treated as had been done in the past.

    Hint: it was going to make houses more affordable.
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    It's a stupid idea. Builders should be liable for bad building; surveyors, architects and engineers should be liable for bad design/spec. Simple.

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    Can we make politicians liable for bad rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimO View Post
    the council are the ones clipping the ticket and inspecting and passing the plans drawn up by architects and designers.........the builders build to the council approved plans using the products specified by the architect and passed by the council why should the builder be liable and have to carry what will be a expensive insurance
    Builders should be liable for their work - plain and simple.
    If a building leaks then the builder has not done his job properly.
    We have had this discussion before.
    For the last 20 years builders have ducked and dived, blamed the architects and planners and wound up their businesses to avoid their responsibilities.
    Builders do need to be insured in case they cock up.
    And they may pass this cost onto their customers.


 

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