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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsaneperson View Post
    yet I am wondering if their is a new mandate requiring me to do so?
    No new mandate - same one as before.
    Right now you must include in all new TAs a statement on the current insulation.
    From June 2019 (was it June - anyway the same date as before) you must have brought insulation up to spec if you can reasonably do so.
    Stripping gib etc isn't considered reasonable.

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    I think the reason walls are not included is because they are optional. So there is no need to define wall insulation you can simply leave it blank or say none if you don't know. All our PMs forms don't even have wall as a field to fill in :-).

    "Ceiling and underfloor insulation must be installed, where it is reasonably practicable to install. It must comply with the regulations and be safely installed. Wall insulation is not compulsory."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobsyouruncle View Post
    I think the reason walls are not included is because they are optional. So there is no need to define wall insulation you can simply leave it blank or say none if you don't know. All our PMs forms don't even have wall as a field to fill in :-).
    Though it may not be mandatory to upgrade the wall insulation the RTA says you have to say what it is.
    Saying zero would be fine but not saying anything (leaving blank or out completely) would seem to contravene the RTA.

    Just because your forms don't have it doesn't make it right.

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    Just saying our 3 PM's in different cities don't ask for it..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nice View Post
    I stand corrected, my apologies.
    No need to apologize there Nice. You just have to dig deeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    Though it may not be mandatory to upgrade the wall insulation the RTA says you have to say what it is.
    Saying zero would be fine but not saying anything (leaving blank or out completely) would seem to contravene the RTA.

    Just because your forms don't have it doesn't make it right.
    That may not be correct.
    The RTA form from the MBIE website says:

    Location of insulation: Floor Ceilings Walls* (Please tick all that apply)

    It would appear you can ignore them all if you don't know the answers and skip over the question.

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    Page three states:

    "Bonds must be lodged with the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment within 23 working days of being paid" My emphasis.

    This is also incorrect and is the most irritating part of the document to me.

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    For the lesser clued up:

    19 Duties of landlord on receipt of bond
    (1) Where any person pays to the landlord, or to any other person on behalf of the landlord, any amount by way of bond (whether the amount is for the whole or part of the bond), the following provisions shall apply:
    (b) the landlord shall, within 23 working days after the payment is made, forward the amount received to the chief executive, together with a statement of particulars in the approved form signed by the landlord and the tenant.
    With all the Draconian new laws for residential rental LLs, perhaps AirBnB would be better? To avoid any hassle in Hawke's Bay, consult Be My Hostess. Want a great looking concrete swimming pool in Hawke's Bay? Designer Pools will do the job for you!

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    Here's a chuckle Perry. I have forwarded the bond to MBIE and they have returned the forms and cheque as not being filled out correctly. Now, do I have to send it in again?

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    Yeah - well, we all know the likely IQ levels and pedanticism of those you're dealing with.
    With all the Draconian new laws for residential rental LLs, perhaps AirBnB would be better? To avoid any hassle in Hawke's Bay, consult Be My Hostess. Want a great looking concrete swimming pool in Hawke's Bay? Designer Pools will do the job for you!


 

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