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    Quote Originally Posted by Nice View Post
    You don't have to include walls in your statement, just ceiling and underfloor.
    You what? The Residential Tenancies Act seems to differ.

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    (1A) The landlord must include in the tenancy agreement a statement, made and signed by the landlord, that provides the following information to the tenant (subject to subsections (1B) and (1C)):
    (a) whether or not there is, as at the date of the tenancy agreement, any insulation installed in connection with any ceilings, floors, or walls that are at the premises:
    (b) details of the location, type, and condition of all insulation that is, as at the date of the tenancy agreement, installed in connection with any ceilings, floors, or walls that are at the premises:
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    I stand corrected, my apologies.

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    Stand in the corner for five minutes, then you're forgiven.

    But you have to wonder at RTA legalese, at times.

    details of the location . . . of all insulation that is . . . in . . . any ceilings, floors, or walls that are at the premises:

    As the ceiling insulation is almost certain to be located in the ceiling, does the TA need to specify what a ceiling is and where it is? Ditto for the walls and floor.

    As for "at the premises," where else would it be? Doh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    Stand in the corner for five minutes, then you're forgiven.

    But you have to wonder at RTA legalese, at times.

    details of the location . . . of all insulation that is . . . in . . . any ceilings, floors, or walls that are at the premises:

    As the ceiling insulation is almost certain to be located in the ceiling, does the TA need to specify what a ceiling is and where it is? Ditto for the walls and floor.

    As for "at the premises," where else would it be? Doh!
    So part of the ceiling could be insualted - maybe all but the skillion roof.
    Likewise - I have a house with an addition that has walls insulated but the rest of the house isn't.
    Not so silly really.

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    Yes - that could be the case, but would that not be the difference between insulated and partly insulated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    Yes - that could be the case, but would that not be the difference between insulated and partly insulated?
    Does the RTA mention 'partly insulated'?
    I don't get your point.
    They want you to specify what and where the insulation is.
    If you say ceiling is insulated to R3.6 with blanket insulation then it will be assumed that it if fully insulated.
    If you said x part of the ceiling is insulated to R3.6 etc then it would show that it is partly insulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    Does the RTA mention 'partly insulated'?
    I don't get your point.
    They want you to specify what and where the insulation is.
    If you say ceiling is insulated to R3.6 with blanket insulation then it will be assumed that it if fully insulated.
    If you said x part of the ceiling is insulated to R3.6 etc then it would show that it is partly insulated.
    So presumably under the new regulations ""partly insulated"" isn't an option anymore and that would require landlord to rectify the situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsaneperson View Post
    So presumably under the new regulations ""partly insulated"" isn't an option anymore and that would require landlord to rectify the situation?
    Why would you say that?
    Under the new regulations you have to insulate to a certain standard if you reasonably can.
    If your house has a roof space and a skillion ceiling I expect you would have to insulate the 'normal' ceiling but can't insulate the skillion roof.
    If your house had an extension and part is concrete floor then the rest would have to be insulated if it reasonably can be.
    Same with walls.

    It doesn't have to be all or none - as far as I can see but I'm only using my logic here (I'm not some insulation regulation expert).

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    If it can be reasonably done, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    Why would you say that?
    Under the new regulations you have to insulate to a certain standard if you reasonably can.
    If your house has a roof space and a skillion ceiling I expect you would have to insulate the 'normal' ceiling but can't insulate the skillion roof.
    If your house had an extension and part is concrete floor then the rest would have to be insulated if it reasonably can be.
    Same with walls.

    It doesn't have to be all or none - as far as I can see but I'm only using my logic here (I'm not some insulation regulation expert).
    I see what you are saying . I have a rental where part of the under flooring is not insulated , yet the house is warmer than my own and is insulated in walls and ceiling and I do not see why I should be required to insulate this small part - yet I am wondering if their is a new mandate requiring me to do so?


 

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