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    Default Consent needed for a kitchenette?

    hi there, we are wanting to put in a kitchenette downstairs and rent it out as a one bed unit.

    I saw one online which was removable, the elements are electric. Although the sink pipes would need to be plumbed in. We have a space beside the washing machine for this.

    My question is do I need consent to do this and rent it out?

    Cheers,
    Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicko54 View Post
    hi there, we are wanting to put in a kitchenette downstairs and rent it out as a one bed unit.

    I saw one online which was removable, the elements are electric. Although the sink pipes would need to be plumbed in. We have a space beside the washing machine for this.

    My question is do I need consent to do this and rent it out?

    Cheers,
    Nick
    Hi Nick
    As soon as you are adding plumbing, yes you would need a consent (moving is a bit different - exemption from consent if moving). Your problem will be adding elements. This makes it a kitchen and you would most likely need both a building consent and a resource consent which would be very difficult to get unfortunately.

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    You probably would, yes. A licensed builder or draughtsman will be able to confirm.
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    The reality is that you will be providing accommodation for someone.

    This therefore must be resisted at all costs.

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    Awesome, thanks guys. I phoned the council also and they said it would be treated as a minor dwelling even though it is not going to be seperate from the rest of the house. They said as soon as you put in another kitchen or kitchenette it is classed as a minor dwelling. That said apparently I don't need resource consent as the adjacent area is less than 65sqm but because I will be adding a new sanitary facility, being a sink, I will need to get a building consent, which would take 20 working days after submission with the council and a cost of $1300.

    Anyway, a builder is coming around tomorrow so will also ask him.

    Thanks again for everyone's answers.

    Cheers,
    Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicko54 View Post
    Awesome, thanks guys. I phoned the council also and they said it would be treated as a minor dwelling even though it is not going to be seperate from the rest of the house. They said as soon as you put in another kitchen or kitchenette it is classed as a minor dwelling. That said apparently I don't need resource consent as the adjacent area is less than 65sqm but because I will be adding a new sanitary facility, being a sink, I will need to get a building consent, which would take 20 working days after submission with the council and a cost of $1300.

    Anyway, a builder is coming around tomorrow so will also ask him.

    Thanks again for everyone's answers.

    Cheers,
    Nick
    Hey, I "believe" putting in a extra new stove/oven is a consent activity because of the electrical draw, however a full gas oven bypasses this. Is there currently a sink and all plumbing in the laundry?
    Also consider taking a boarder rather than a separate tenancy, I'm under the impression boarder income does not get taxed. The accountants here may put me right!

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    Plug in hob and convection microwave. Or standard microwave and bench top oven is a cheaper option. All easily removable.

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    Hi Nick,
    Have done several of these.. cost could be up to 100-150k for 60m2 and depends on which part of the country. You will have to pay development contribution, Unit will need fire proofing with fire engineer design, sound proofed, if it was an old garage may require upgrading floor or damp proofing from inside and outside.

    These are some costs in 2014 to covert a basement into 60m2 2 bedrooms with bath and kitchen (hamilton CC)

    Architect/Planner $7000
    Building Consent $2975
    Resource Consent $3345 (Although I still believe I don’t need it)
    Fire Engineer $975
    Development Contribution $4418 (1/3rd normal contribution)
    Waterproofing the Basement/Drainage $9000
    Builder/Plaster $40,000
    Sparky $5000
    Plumber $6000
    Bathroom Fittings $3000
    Painting $3000
    Rangehood/Oven $2000
    Kitchen $6000
    Landscaping $9000

    Cheers

    Quote Originally Posted by nicko54 View Post
    Awesome, thanks guys. I phoned the council also and they said it would be treated as a minor dwelling even though it is not going to be seperate from the rest of the house. They said as soon as you put in another kitchen or kitchenette it is classed as a minor dwelling. That said apparently I don't need resource consent as the adjacent area is less than 65sqm but because I will be adding a new sanitary facility, being a sink, I will need to get a building consent, which would take 20 working days after submission with the council and a cost of $1300.

    Anyway, a builder is coming around tomorrow so will also ask him.

    Thanks again for everyone's answers.

    Cheers,
    Nick

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    Awesome, thanks guys. I phoned the council also and they said it would be treated as a minor dwelling even though it is not going to be seperate from the rest of the house. They said as soon as you put in another kitchen or kitchenette it is classed as a minor dwelling. That said apparently I don't need resource consent as the adjacent area is less than 65sqm but because I will be adding a new sanitary facility, being a sink, I will need to get a building consent, which would take 20 working days after submission with the council and a cost of $1300.

    Anyway, a builder is coming around tomorrow so will also ask him.
    ask the council is the same requirements apply to a granny flat? Make sure you record names when talking to council officers.

    This one didnt know the nuances of the Building Act and the builder coming is even less likely to..

    If you could move the plumbing from somewhere it can be done without consent (but done by registsterd plumber ditto the electical work does not need consent as electricians self certify.

    Your mistake was to use the term "one bed unit". That implies seperate and exclusive and different household and a minor dwelling

    ity you use term self contained space for a member of the same household you may get a different answer?

    but if you want to spend 100-150k go ahead I am sure it will be a better space for the investment?

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    [QUOTE=Beginner1;415996 You will have to pay development contribution, Unit will need fire proofing with fire engineer design, sound proofed

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    Only if you intend for it to be a separate housing unit, able to be rented out separately from the main house. Would need to have separate utilities, too, to comply with RTA.
    Not necessary for a granny flat (independent space occupied by a member of the same household.)

    I have a granny flat under my house - it is rented to a flatmate who pays a share of the bills.
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