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View Poll Results: Meth test any one agrees?

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  • yes with reservations

    0 0%
  • yes but paid by the interested party

    1 33.33%
  • yes,but voluntary

    1 33.33%
  • yes but not mandatory

    0 0%
  • yes 100 agree

    1 33.33%
  • no

    0 0%
  • no with reservations

    0 0%
  • no unless paid by the goverment

    0 0%
  • no unless there is help from the government to decontaminate

    1 33.33%
  • no meth has been around since the beginning of time

    0 0%
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  1. #421
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    What are you doing this Thursday PC?

    Am flying up there for the course. PM me if you want further details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keys View Post
    ^^ I like the "reasonable cleaning" phrase.

    Since you have completed the "P" testing course, do you include a meth test report in the TA? Otherwise, how can you prove that the property was clean at the start of the tenancy?
    On our ingoing inspection reports we have migrated more than once from this and that specialist inspection program and are now right back to using Word. We insert a picture of the test cartridge which clearly shows the two lines in red. I was a bit worried at first that the second line was rather faint in a few cases. What you learn on the course is this faint line still indicates a negative test. Like the contamination is less than 0.5 Micro grams.

    So yes we have the tenants sign three times that there is no P.
    Once on the main body of the TA that states no P. (separately initialed)
    Second on the special conditions of the TA.
    Third on the ingoing inspection.

    What I have not yet progressed to is doing between tenancy tests when we do the regular three monthlies. The reason for this is there is no facility in the RTA to actually achieve an eviction for using drugs in a property. The test for an eviction is a publicly notified conviction in the district court. Just getting a conviction in the district court is not sufficient because the public do not have access to the judgements in the District Court. The Rt Hon Judith Minister of justice was working towards getting that access but since she was replaced the promise seems to have faded into the forgotten realm.
    The other issue as I have mentioned several times that I have not progressed to is urine, blood, saliva, and hair drug tests.
    I will let others walk on the red hot fires of controversy before rushing in where fools fear do their thing.
    Last edited by Glenn; 08-05-2016 at 01:35 PM.

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    Just a piss take question Glenn.

    Do you use the standard government TA and inspection form?

  4. #424

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    quick comment on the $15 immediate results testing - basically A WASTE OF TIME - see the stats

  5. #425

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    Maybe there's a need to start a business with a drug sniffer dog for a first indication of meth or pot.
    Friendly, reliable, and cuddly afterwards too.

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    yes good thought - as an ex Police Dog Handler (although so far back almost a previous life) it would be great - but TENANTS rights etc and the logistics of getting the 'stuff' to train the dog(s) would need to be Police supervised

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    The reason for this is there is no facility in the RTA to actually achieve an eviction for using drugs in a property.
    In your experience, Glenn, and presuming that the drug concerned is illegal, how does that stack up against this section?

    Quote Originally Posted by RTA
    (2) The tenant shall not

    (b) use the premises, or permit the premises to be used, for any unlawful purpose;

    (3A) The following are declared to be unlawful acts:
    (c) a contravention of subsection (2)(b):

    The way you put it, seems that an unlawful act of that nature by a tenant is just a wet-bus-ticket-slap-type offence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perry View Post
    In your experience, Glenn, and presuming that the drug concerned is illegal, how does that stack up against this section?




    The way you put it, seems that an unlawful act of that nature by a tenant is just a wet-bus-ticket-slap-type offence.
    The issue Perry is that it matters little what a modestly intelligent person understands the RTA to mean.
    I speak on the basis of multi failures to use that section of the RTA.
    The adjudicators can make any ruling they see is equitable and get away with it.
    There is no sensible process to challenge their decisions so the answer is to simply work out another way to achieve what we want.
    The problem is deciding what I want.
    Now that is the question.
    Do you know what I want.
    What do you want.
    When pushed really hard I have to agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wemoon View Post
    quick comment on the $15 immediate results testing - basically A WASTE OF TIME - see the stats
    Now my goodness. I have heard multiple opinions of the various testing techniques.
    I now have a certificate to say I am qualified to do surface contamination testing using two different types of tests. One of these is via Hills Lab.
    The purpose of this forum is to test the ideas that are floating around.
    Please for my and everyone else's sake. Can you lay your cards on the table.
    What tests what statistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    What tests what statistics.
    Carried out by whom?


 

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