Originally posted by Lanthanide
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H & S foolishness has sunk to new depths
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Yip, but it's pretty much inevitable at this point. I expect that within 20 years, there'll be at least one country in the world where it's illegal for humans to drive on most public roads. I think NZ will take a bit longer than that, since we have a much older car fleet on average.
IMO the best solution is a UBI, but we're getting off topic of H&S.
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Originally posted by Lanthanide View PostThe point is, all first world countries have these sorts of laws. We're not some weird outlier, although I suspect there isn't as much whinging in other countries as there is here about what a bad idea it is not to kill and injure people when they're just trying to make a living.
If everyone thought it was a dumb idea, I would have expected there to be referendums to repeal it.
I agree with the VVN.
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The Fun Police Fifth Columnists Strike
Farm shutting its gates on fun
8 Mar 2017
Originally posted by NZHDave Hunger is closing the gates on Fernbrooke Farm Amusement Park, at least for this year, while he works his way through a list of "more than 70" changes he needs to introduce or make before he can safely hold open days again. "Otherwise, if a child gets hurt here, I run the risk of a big fine and being taken to court by WorkSafe." He is quick to say his gripe is with a world which has "gone a little bit overboard when it comes to rules and regulations on health and safety".
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I was gobsmacked the other day when talking to a builder friend.
He was griping about the shirts he has to wear when working. Apparently it's mandatory to wear hi-vis shirts with collars and sleeves, which he hates because it's nasty synthetic stuff which gets damp and clings to his neck.
The logic behind this obligation? To protect the workers from sunburn. So there you have it. Employees can't be trusted to understand that they need to wear sunblock when out in the sun all day, so employers must force them to wear uncomfortable clothing to ensure protection from the sun.
For the love of God, where does it end?My blog. From personal experience.
http://statehousinginnz.wordpress.com/
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Originally posted by sidinz View Post
The logic behind this obligation? To protect the workers from sunburn. So there you have it. Employees can't be trusted to understand that they need to wear sunblock when out in the sun all day, so employers must force them to wear uncomfortable clothing to ensure protection from the sun.
Its actually all about liability -by doing this, if/when they do get sunburn the employer cant be blamed.
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Of Laws & Asses
I recall a tale from years ago.
Three old men were in court for riding their bicycles three abreast. Their defence was simple: the third rider was over-taking the two abreast pair.
The judge commented that - as far as the law was concerned - the only way for the third rider to legally overtake the two abreast pair was by picking up his bicycle and running past them, carrying it. To do otherwise led to the consequences now facing the riders.
The judge commented that he was bound to uphold the law, so convicted them and fined them 30 cents. A number - he observed somewhat wryly - that was readily divisible by three.
Seems like a problem with the law, not the cyclists.
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Originally posted by flyernzl View PostWrong.
Its actually all about liability -by doing this, if/when they do get sunburn the employer cant be blamed.
It's not logical that an individual is responsible for their own sun sense in their leisure time, but not for the hours they're at work.My blog. From personal experience.
http://statehousinginnz.wordpress.com/
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To quote another PT forumite (more or less):
NZ's Health and Safety Law
All forms of personal responsibility are outlawed.
Anyone found taking responsibility for their own safety will be harshly punished!
If anything happens to you, it's someone else's fault and they shall be punished.
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Originally posted by Perry View PostTo quote another PT forumite (more or less):
NZ's Health and Safety Law
All forms of personal responsibility are outlawed.
Anyone found taking responsibility for their own safety will be harshly punished!
If anything happens to you, it's someone else's fault and they shall be punished.
So clearly this is exaggerated bullshit from people who believe employers shouldn't bother to keep their workers safe.
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