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NELSON PROPERTY INVESTORS ASSOCIATION
SEPTEMBER 2015 NEWSLETTER
PO Box 198 Nelson
Our sixth meeting of the year is being held at the Nelson Suburban Club, Tahunanui Drive on Tuesday 15th September. This month we are lucky to have Alan Johnson speaking. Alan is from the Salvation Army. He is the brains behind the research that they publish regularly. Social housing and the Governments determined plan to sell off their HNZ stock commences this week and is very topical. The Ministers were full of letting the Salvation Army take over their portfolio. How they came to that conclusion was never stated but their balloon was deflated when Major Campbell Roberts declared that their church was not about running a large residential portfolio of old high maintenance houses.
Alan’s presentation will be “Housing challenges for our aging population”. I have read several of Alan’s papers and speeches. What he says is well said, makes sense, and is based on facts not guess work. I suspect that his research papers have significant influence on the Minister’s understanding of the market, far more so than some of the government funded agencies who hit the news headlines regularly. Without a doubt the current actions of the Government in removing itself from being a landlord will have implications that reverberate within our industry for the next decade or so. I encourage you to take this rare opportunity to get a feel for social housing without the normal political rhetoric that many self-interest groups bring to the table when discussing it. The meeting proper commences at 7.30 pm with the meal at 6pm. We will be eating in the Club Cafe which is cheaper but slower so attendees need to arrive at 5:45 pm. If you are coming to the meal please email Glenn by return email. The Suburban Club reserves seats on the basis of my bookings.
WHAT DOES A LONG HOLIDAY IN EUROPE DO FOR THE NZ PROPERTY MARKET?
The answer to that question is nothing. My daughter in London on wonderful wages is thinking about buying a property of her own. Her budget for a small older upstairs flat is 300,000 pounds which is about NZ$750,000. I have been having fun looking on line for her. The only places in that price range all seem to right beside the sewage treatment plant with its associated smells or beside an expressway with 24/7 traffic with its associated noise. One could take heart that at least over there with their much lower interest rates the monthly mortgage payments will be less than rent providing she can come up with a 10% deposit. Meanwhile back in New Zealand the media and politicians continue to bash and blame landlords for everything from high prices to hungry children. I do wonder why the media does not do some investigative journalism on the daily horrific child tragedies. Is rent or high mortgage payments really the cause of the problem? If there was some truth in these allegations we would see a conspicuous wonderful absence of child statistics from HNZ tenants who pay around $80 per week for a three bedroom house. So is NZ out of kilter with the rest of the world. Can we blame Glenn, Bill, Tom or Dick for NZ house prices and rents? What new tax, legal punishment or deterrent can we introduce to fix the problem?
The following article written by Michael Riddell sheds some light on the subject.
Michael is speaking at our 27th October meeting.
Michael has spent 30+ years doing economic analysis and policy advice in a range of institutions, in New Zealand and overseas. Most of that time was at the Reserve Bank, where he ran a number of areas, including a spell as Head of Financial Markets, responsible for monetary policy implementation, foreign reserves management, and the analysis of financial system risks. He spent 25 years or so on the (equivalent of the) OCR Advisory Group to the Governor, and many years on the Bank’s key internal financial regulation policy committee.
Reflecting further on the risks facing our banking system, I dug out some fairly long-term house price inflation data from the BIS for 19 OECD countries. I was slightly hesitant about doing so, because there is a risk of feeding the narrative that vanilla lending secured on residential property is likely to be an important independent element in any financial system stress. As the Norges Bank has pointed out, and as the Reserve Bank has affirmed, that just hasn’t been so historically. To the extent that the United States last decade may have appeared an exception, it is important to recall that the heavy role Congress and the Federal government played in driving down lending standards, and the non-vanilla nature of much of the lending.
But for what it is worth, here are a few charts. In all cases, the latest observations are for the December 2014 quarter, which is as up to date as the BIS data are.
Here are real house prices changes since 2007 (most countries had a peak in or around 2007).
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Glenn/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image004.jpg[/IMG]
Real house prices in New Zealand have increased by less than those in Australia and Canada - and yet it is New Zealand banks that have been downgraded to BBB+, a rating not much higher than that held by South Canterbury Finance in 2008. As we’ve seen previously, New Zealand credit growth has done no more than roughly track nominal GDP growth over that period.
The BIS base their data at 1995. There is nothing special about 1995, although in most of thse countries it was before any of the strongest house price booms had got underway.
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Glenn/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image006.jpg[/IMG]
Even over the whole 20 years, New Zealand real house prices have increased less than those in Australia and the UK. For the boom period itself (1995 to 2007) New Zealand’s house price inflation was only a touch stronger than that of the median country in this sample.
For most of the countries the BIS has data back to 1970, but for all 19 countries they have data back to 1976. Whether one starts from 1970 or 1976, has had less real house price inflation than Australia and the UK, although more than Canada.
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Glenn/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image008.jpg[/IMG]
And what about periods of falling real house prices? There have been 53 episodes across these 19 countries of real house price falls in excess of 5 per cent. Germany and Belgium have had only one such episode each. Five countries - including New Zealand - have had four such episodes each (including the 15 per cent real fall in and around the 2008/09 recession).
None of this is intended to convey any sort of sense of complacency about house prices in New Zealand (and especially Auckland). They are a scandal, resulting primarily from the acts (of omission and commission) of central and local government), but if anything have increased a little less than we’ve seen in countries with similar planning and land use restrictions (the UK’s are probably tighter, but population growth pressures are less there than in New Zealand and Australia).
But singling out the New Zealand banking system - as S&P appears to have done - seems unwarranted. There is no obvious material differentiation in the sorts of housing risks being taken on by New Zealand banks. Perhaps S&P are right about New Zealand. But the Reserve Bank’s stress tests results don’t suggest so. And, perhaps as importantly, historically, vanilla housing loans don’t lead to bank collapses, and systemic banks don’t collapse (or even come under severe stress) when especially not when credit has been growing no faster than GDP. Reckless property development lending is a much more plausible culprit - and we haven't had it in the years since the recession.
Not entirely unrelatedly, I saw a piece the other day by Auckland City’s chief economist in which he cited some work done for the Council by NZIER suggesting that part of the growth in Auckland house prices can be explained by the proposed district plan changes that will allow for greater intensification in some parts of Auckland. I’ve seen a similar argument made by the Westpac economics team. But I must be missing the point. I can easily see why allowing more intensification on a particular section will increase the relative price of that section, but I cannot see how it can be raising prices of houses and land across Auckland as a whole. Reducing land use restrictions - whether in respect of intensification, or allowing more dispersed development - increases the effective supply of land. And it seems unlikely that increasing supply will itself materially alter demand (eg materially increasing population growth, most of which is now driven by immigration policy). At least when I did introductory economics, increased supply would generally lower the price. It is easy to see why the relative (and perhaps even absolute) prices of some sections might rise if the reforms are for real, but surely any such effect should be more than offset by a fall in urban prices more generally? If there is serious scope for more intensification, and that potential is expected to be utilised, then rational potential buyers all over Auckland should already expect less intense competition in future for this now less-scarce resource. If anything, those prospective regulatory changes should be lowering prices now (perhaps only a little, because no one knows yet what real effect they will have), not raising them.
The same Chief Economist also noted that
“we need to economise on the massive amount of urban land we already have, and use it to its best effect. Auckland needs to treat its land like gold dust and a little needs to go a long way”.
I’ve got no problem with removing land use restrictions, whether they are on outward or upward development, but let’s recall that the only thing that makes Auckland urban land remotely comparable to gold dust is the regulatory regime which the Auckland Council administers and imposes. Yes, Parnell might always be expensive, but there is simply no reason why sections in middling suburbs should be. Historically, as cities become richer they have become less dense, not more dense. Planners, councillors, and associated bureaucrats are the people who systematically impede that normal and natural process.
SEPTEMBER 2015 NEWSLETTER
PO Box 198 Nelson
Our sixth meeting of the year is being held at the Nelson Suburban Club, Tahunanui Drive on Tuesday 15th September. This month we are lucky to have Alan Johnson speaking. Alan is from the Salvation Army. He is the brains behind the research that they publish regularly. Social housing and the Governments determined plan to sell off their HNZ stock commences this week and is very topical. The Ministers were full of letting the Salvation Army take over their portfolio. How they came to that conclusion was never stated but their balloon was deflated when Major Campbell Roberts declared that their church was not about running a large residential portfolio of old high maintenance houses.
Alan’s presentation will be “Housing challenges for our aging population”. I have read several of Alan’s papers and speeches. What he says is well said, makes sense, and is based on facts not guess work. I suspect that his research papers have significant influence on the Minister’s understanding of the market, far more so than some of the government funded agencies who hit the news headlines regularly. Without a doubt the current actions of the Government in removing itself from being a landlord will have implications that reverberate within our industry for the next decade or so. I encourage you to take this rare opportunity to get a feel for social housing without the normal political rhetoric that many self-interest groups bring to the table when discussing it. The meeting proper commences at 7.30 pm with the meal at 6pm. We will be eating in the Club Cafe which is cheaper but slower so attendees need to arrive at 5:45 pm. If you are coming to the meal please email Glenn by return email. The Suburban Club reserves seats on the basis of my bookings.
WHAT DOES A LONG HOLIDAY IN EUROPE DO FOR THE NZ PROPERTY MARKET?
The answer to that question is nothing. My daughter in London on wonderful wages is thinking about buying a property of her own. Her budget for a small older upstairs flat is 300,000 pounds which is about NZ$750,000. I have been having fun looking on line for her. The only places in that price range all seem to right beside the sewage treatment plant with its associated smells or beside an expressway with 24/7 traffic with its associated noise. One could take heart that at least over there with their much lower interest rates the monthly mortgage payments will be less than rent providing she can come up with a 10% deposit. Meanwhile back in New Zealand the media and politicians continue to bash and blame landlords for everything from high prices to hungry children. I do wonder why the media does not do some investigative journalism on the daily horrific child tragedies. Is rent or high mortgage payments really the cause of the problem? If there was some truth in these allegations we would see a conspicuous wonderful absence of child statistics from HNZ tenants who pay around $80 per week for a three bedroom house. So is NZ out of kilter with the rest of the world. Can we blame Glenn, Bill, Tom or Dick for NZ house prices and rents? What new tax, legal punishment or deterrent can we introduce to fix the problem?
The following article written by Michael Riddell sheds some light on the subject.
Michael is speaking at our 27th October meeting.
Michael has spent 30+ years doing economic analysis and policy advice in a range of institutions, in New Zealand and overseas. Most of that time was at the Reserve Bank, where he ran a number of areas, including a spell as Head of Financial Markets, responsible for monetary policy implementation, foreign reserves management, and the analysis of financial system risks. He spent 25 years or so on the (equivalent of the) OCR Advisory Group to the Governor, and many years on the Bank’s key internal financial regulation policy committee.
| [IMG]file:///C:/Users/Glenn/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image002.gif[/IMG] | Some longer-term house price charts by Michael Reddell |
But for what it is worth, here are a few charts. In all cases, the latest observations are for the December 2014 quarter, which is as up to date as the BIS data are.
Here are real house prices changes since 2007 (most countries had a peak in or around 2007).
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Glenn/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image004.jpg[/IMG]
Real house prices in New Zealand have increased by less than those in Australia and Canada - and yet it is New Zealand banks that have been downgraded to BBB+, a rating not much higher than that held by South Canterbury Finance in 2008. As we’ve seen previously, New Zealand credit growth has done no more than roughly track nominal GDP growth over that period.
The BIS base their data at 1995. There is nothing special about 1995, although in most of thse countries it was before any of the strongest house price booms had got underway.
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Glenn/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image006.jpg[/IMG]
Even over the whole 20 years, New Zealand real house prices have increased less than those in Australia and the UK. For the boom period itself (1995 to 2007) New Zealand’s house price inflation was only a touch stronger than that of the median country in this sample.
For most of the countries the BIS has data back to 1970, but for all 19 countries they have data back to 1976. Whether one starts from 1970 or 1976, has had less real house price inflation than Australia and the UK, although more than Canada.
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Glenn/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image008.jpg[/IMG]
And what about periods of falling real house prices? There have been 53 episodes across these 19 countries of real house price falls in excess of 5 per cent. Germany and Belgium have had only one such episode each. Five countries - including New Zealand - have had four such episodes each (including the 15 per cent real fall in and around the 2008/09 recession).
None of this is intended to convey any sort of sense of complacency about house prices in New Zealand (and especially Auckland). They are a scandal, resulting primarily from the acts (of omission and commission) of central and local government), but if anything have increased a little less than we’ve seen in countries with similar planning and land use restrictions (the UK’s are probably tighter, but population growth pressures are less there than in New Zealand and Australia).
But singling out the New Zealand banking system - as S&P appears to have done - seems unwarranted. There is no obvious material differentiation in the sorts of housing risks being taken on by New Zealand banks. Perhaps S&P are right about New Zealand. But the Reserve Bank’s stress tests results don’t suggest so. And, perhaps as importantly, historically, vanilla housing loans don’t lead to bank collapses, and systemic banks don’t collapse (or even come under severe stress) when especially not when credit has been growing no faster than GDP. Reckless property development lending is a much more plausible culprit - and we haven't had it in the years since the recession.
Not entirely unrelatedly, I saw a piece the other day by Auckland City’s chief economist in which he cited some work done for the Council by NZIER suggesting that part of the growth in Auckland house prices can be explained by the proposed district plan changes that will allow for greater intensification in some parts of Auckland. I’ve seen a similar argument made by the Westpac economics team. But I must be missing the point. I can easily see why allowing more intensification on a particular section will increase the relative price of that section, but I cannot see how it can be raising prices of houses and land across Auckland as a whole. Reducing land use restrictions - whether in respect of intensification, or allowing more dispersed development - increases the effective supply of land. And it seems unlikely that increasing supply will itself materially alter demand (eg materially increasing population growth, most of which is now driven by immigration policy). At least when I did introductory economics, increased supply would generally lower the price. It is easy to see why the relative (and perhaps even absolute) prices of some sections might rise if the reforms are for real, but surely any such effect should be more than offset by a fall in urban prices more generally? If there is serious scope for more intensification, and that potential is expected to be utilised, then rational potential buyers all over Auckland should already expect less intense competition in future for this now less-scarce resource. If anything, those prospective regulatory changes should be lowering prices now (perhaps only a little, because no one knows yet what real effect they will have), not raising them.
The same Chief Economist also noted that
“we need to economise on the massive amount of urban land we already have, and use it to its best effect. Auckland needs to treat its land like gold dust and a little needs to go a long way”.
I’ve got no problem with removing land use restrictions, whether they are on outward or upward development, but let’s recall that the only thing that makes Auckland urban land remotely comparable to gold dust is the regulatory regime which the Auckland Council administers and imposes. Yes, Parnell might always be expensive, but there is simply no reason why sections in middling suburbs should be. Historically, as cities become richer they have become less dense, not more dense. Planners, councillors, and associated bureaucrats are the people who systematically impede that normal and natural process.
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