Is it Trump all the way?

[Bobsyouruncle]

We'll know soon enough. I will be surprised if he doesn't get in. He certainly is the better choice. The Dem's platform is awful.

[cube]

We'll know soon enough. I will be surprised if he doesn't get in. He certainly is the better choice. The Dem's platform is awful.

Have you actually seen the polls? Trump has done a lot of unprecedented things, but recovering a 6-7 point gap at this stage?

[Bobsyouruncle]

Yes but much of the media is left leaning so I don't think they will know till polling day. They are running sh*t scared so they certainly don't think it's in the bag.

[JBM]

Yes but much of the media is left leaning so I don't think they will know till polling day. They are running sh*t scared so they certainly don't think it's in the bag.

Yes same as Brexit ....Mass Media gave it nil chance

I'm most disgusted by our own TV media which seems to only pump the same rhetoric(brainwash) ...Tump bad bad ....clinton perfect ....then pretty much every night Syrian people killed by Government that was elected by the people ...and nothing about the so called Free Syrian Army rebels that started and have continued to kill the Syrian people ....

-Free Syrian Army, FSA, A Salafi forces backed by Saudi Arabia, the most radical country in the world, in Salafism, everyone other than Salafi-s are infidels and should be killed, Salafism is an Islamic supremacy theory, Christians should pay money as "jezya" for living in Muslim countries, women are just sex tools.

-Al Nusra Front, Al Qaeda affiliated group, as radical as FSA, and Saudi Arabia.

-Ahrar Al Sham, Salafi-Jihadi, More dangerous, they believe that every Muslim male should join the battle against infidelity, and kill.

-ISIL, Islamic State, well you know who they are, and by the way, they are Salafi-Jihadi too.

So the relationship between ISIL and all other so called "rebels" is that they are all Salafi, and don't want non-Muslims to live inside Muslim countries.

A rebel is someone who is fighting for freedom and justice.
A Salafi is someone who is fighting for taking away your personal freedom from you under the religion rules.

Salafi can never be a rebel, Salafi is a criminal.

[Bobsyouruncle]

The Herald in particular is so pro Clinton it defies belief considering they have zero vested interest either way.

[donna]

He does have the 'creepy' tag now so it couldn't get much worse.

cheers,

Donna

[drelly]

The Herald in particular is so pro Clinton it defies belief considering they have zero vested interest either way.

Maybe they just don't want to support a racist, misogynist sociopath?

[eri]

+1.....................

[Bobsyouruncle]

It's not the medias job to support foreign politics, it's their job to report it. Something they don't do in this case.

[cube]

It's not the medias job to support foreign politics, it's their job to report it. Something they don't do in this case.

The media will do whatever sells copies (or attacts eyeballs) - the days of an independent press are long gone.

However, I don't see what that has got to do with polls, the high quality ones of which are independent - it is the reporting of them that gets skewed.

Meanwhile, in the left leaning media:



And, for trend analysis

[JBM]

The Herald in particular is so pro Clinton it defies belief considering they have zero vested interest either way.

Not only the Herald pretty much the vast bulk of the media only report negatives on trump and positives on Hillary ....NewstalkZB Leighton Smith seems to be able to look past all the BS

Here's 25 reasons not to vote for Hillary

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2016/08/06/25-reasons-not-to-vote-for-hillary-clinton-n2202375

[JBM]

Jill Stein: Trump Is Less Dangerous Than Clinton; She Will Start Nuclear War With Russia

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Posted By Tim Hains
On Date October 12, 2016


Green party presidential candidate Jill Stein: Donald Trump is less scary on foreign wars, because he wants to work with Russia.

JILL STEIN: It's important to look at where we are going. It's not just a moment in time, but where has the strategy of voting for the lesser evil you will taken us?

All these times you have been told to but for the lesser evil because you didn't want the wars, or the meltdown of the climate, or the offshoring of our jobs, or the attack on immigrants or the massive bailout for Wall Street, that is actually what we have gotten. By the droves.

Because we with public interest allow ourselves to be silent and voted for the lesser evil. But the lesser evil doesn't solve the problem.

The Obama administration, even with both houses of Congress, actually did all of these fossil fuel emissions. "All of the above" gave us some renewable energy but it completely amplified and intensified our film production, which has been incredibly destructive to the climate.

The wars have gotten bigger, we are not bombing seven countries.

It is important to not just look at the rhetoric but also look at the track record and the reality is the lesser people and greater people is a race to the bottom, and even Donald Trump in the right wing extremism grows out of the policies of the Clintons, in particular Nafta, which sent our jobs overseas and Wall Street deregulation, which blew 9 million jobs up into smoke.

That is what is creating this right wing extremism. A vote for Hillary Clinton isn't going to fix it...

It is now Hillary Clinton that wants to start an air war with Russia over Syria by calling for a no fly zone.

We have 2000 nuclear missiles on hairtrigger alert. They are saying we are closer to a nuclear war than we have ever been.

Under Hillary Clinton, we could slide into nuclear war very quickly from her declared policy in Syria.

I sure won't sleep well at night if Donald Trump is elected, but I sure won't sleep well at night if Hillary Clinton elected. We have another choice other than these two candidates who are both promoting lethal policies.

On the issue of war and nuclear weapons, it is actually Hillary's policies which are much scarier than Donald Trump who does not want to go to war with Russia.

He wants to seek modes of working together, which is the route that we need to follow not to go into confrontation and nuclear war with Russia.

[Nick G]

"they are saying"

Who is they?

Why is Clinton going to cause a war? Is it by pointing out all the war crimes?

[eri]

It is now Hillary Clinton that wants to start an air war with Russia over Syria by calling for a no fly zone.

asking for something is asking for war?

bit much

[donna]

Putin wants to expand - grab all of Eastern Europe - Trump would let him have it - then what would be next?

cheers,

Donna