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    Quote Originally Posted by jimO View Post
    their holiday finished yesterday so the crowds arnt that bad and we spent 3 days in singapore first which is very nice, Bejing on the other hand has a dirty worn out look about it but the sights are worth seeing,still lots of chinese who havnt seen a westerner, went to the wall yesterday and on the way back stopped and looked at the birdsnest stadium from the olympics, we were probably 500meters away and could hardly see it for the smog, the driving here is insane, cars buses bikes scooters trucks all over the place the road rules dont seem to apply, there are bikes and scooters at night with no lights chrisscrossing in front of a bus doing 60ks down a narrow busy street

    Yeah there are no give way rules in China, even there are, people ignore it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimO View Post
    whats happening in HongKong all news is blocked here even on stuff if you search HK nothing comes up, watching CNN as soon as a article on HK comes on the channel shuts off and comes back on when its over, most chinese havnt got a clue whats happening in outside world a bit like america
    It's not that bad, not as bad as North Korea.

    Besides, the people in HK are just creating trouble for themselves.

    Even there is democracy in HK, HK will always be controlled by China.

    Democracy and capitalism are two different things. Expecting democracy to bring riches and money for the common folk is a dream, a dream that will never happen.

    People in HK need to wake up that they are in deep crap for the next few decades, as their previous economic advantages are all but gone now.

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    I went to Beijing about 10 years back & could not find any English newspaper to read.Actually only came across one person who was reasonably fluent in English. Is it still the same?
    Definitely check out Tiananmen Square worth a look. And their are tea-tasting houses at the back of the square in the old traditional houses, hopefully still there, definitely a unique experience.

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    Hi, Its good that you do have the chance to those places including China. I guess, you should visit China because there are many places to see and discover in their capital City, Beijing. It is where the famous Great wall of China is located. There other places too that you must visit like the New Olympic Village, Birds Stadium, The Temple of Heaven and The Forbidden City. I guess, you were able to visit them by now

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    There are many 1 day tours for these great places in Beijing, very convenient, just book through your hotel reception.

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    Default Millions Swamp the Great Wall


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    When I visited the Great Wall in Oct 2009 again, it was exactly like that... minus the red flags...

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    Glad I visited 26 years ago then - much better experiance I suspect.

    There are other accessible part of the wall - away from Beijing.

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    we are on a organised tour so are seeing lots, getting sick of the beggars and people trying to push their crap on you, they dont take no for a answer the air pollution is incredible havnt seen blue sky since we landed,

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimO View Post
    we are on a organised tour so are seeing lots, getting sick of the beggars and people trying to push their crap on you, they dont take no for a answer the air pollution is incredible havnt seen blue sky since we landed,
    Now you guys will understand why the Chinese want to come to NZ.


 

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