Reminds me of the cringe-worthy "Blitz-spirit Londoners" the Daily Heil trots out now & again. There aren't many left who can recall first-hand the "blitz spirit". As for the remaining 99.999% of Londoners, it's one for all, and all for one.
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Originally posted by iwik View Post
Where has there been one protest by fellow New Zealanders outside of Canterbury in support that EQC/Government
is way out of line ?
Actually, this year is your chance.
Politicians will want your vote.
Now is your only chance to get them to stick it to EQC and the insurance industry.Last edited by flyernzl; 20-03-2014, 11:44 AM.
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Originally posted by Maccachic View PostHow many marches have you attended that were for Auckland issues? Plenty of people helped out when they first hit with gear, accommodation etc don't forget.
If you want marches plan them and they will come.
Gear, accommodation yeah we offer that to our samoan cousins too - where's the hard yards of standing up for your fellow New Zealand
brother and sister ? Sit back and let us get shafted and one day your lack of action could find you in the same place.
Originally posted by Leftette View PostProtest on mass? You mean "en masse". Little chance of that happening when, apart from increased premiums, the quakes had ZERO effect on Aucklander's lives. It's that simple. I feel for you, I do. It sucks that people are still living in 3rd-world conditions so many years afterwards. I always thought it was embarrassing for the US Govt when Katrina laid waste to New Orleans that they didn't repair it (and still haven't). But now I kind of see why.
Originally posted by Wayne View PostDo you really believe that?
Have you really brought into the 'cantabrians are special people who look after each other' hype that came out straight after the earthquakes?
I'm actually a Cantabrian and it made me cringe.
I think the same would have happened in any of the towns and cities of NZ.
folk just look after number one ? No we are no more special than anyone else, our rugby team full of imports, was trying to
quickly break down the stereotype put to me as an excuse for non unity. I prefer to look at the individual.
Originally posted by flyernzl View PostUmmm - John Campbell?
Actually, this year is your chance.
Politicians will want your vote.
Now is your only chance to get them to stick it to EQC and the insurance industry.
Labour no thanks ! No point being given with one hand but the other taking.
Lot of the replies have been like a kid that does not want to do his homework and tries to side track a parent from the real issue.
Leftette frank honest replies are refreshing and some it up in a nutshell - when it all comes down to it in the main anyone outside
of Christchurch don't really give a sh_it and in turn about what their own future with insurance companies might be.
I like John Key but he needs to grow some balls like the aussie PM did when they had the floods in Queensland
and lay the law down to insurance companies by saying the same thing - "You are not treating our people like this".
Thats where the rest of New Zealand comes in to put pressure on him.
Sad state of affairs when a country founded on convicts has more unity.
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Originally posted by iwik View PostDid the student army, Rangiora folk making up meals etc etc etc make you cringe, do you live on a street where
folk just look after number one ? No we are no more special than anyone else, our rugby team full of imports, was trying to
quickly break down the stereotype put to me as an excuse for non unity. I prefer to look at the individual.
You say Cantabrians are no more special than anyone else - I agree. It was the comments, at the time, that Cantabrians were a breed apart that made me cringe.
You implied that Cantabs would behave differently to the rest of NZ when you said
Snub the one part of New Zealand that would be there in a heartbeat to support you
if the big one hit your area and wiped out your hard earned investments overnight.
What makes you think, if the clock was turned back pre-earthquake, and the calamity happened elsewhere in NZ that Cantabs would behave any differently to how Hamiltonians or Wellingtonians or Aucklanders are behaving now?
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I'm also no geologist, however I believe there is no direct correlation between volcanos and earthquakes other than the latter produces the former. You can have an eruption without any (sizeable) earthquakes, and vice versa. Northland has no fault lines.
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Originally posted by Wayne View Post
You implied that Cantabs would behave differently to the rest of NZ when you said
Snub the one part of New Zealand that would be there in a heartbeat to support you
if the big one hit your area and wiped out your hard earned investments overnight.
What makes you think, if the clock was turned back pre-earthquake, and the calamity happened elsewhere in NZ that Cantabs would behave any differently to how Hamiltonians or Wellingtonians or Aucklanders are behaving now?
Was meaning its been proven that there are people within the region of Canterbury that will travel for hundreds of kilometers to help a stranger, people within other regions no doubt would do the same but why snub something already proven ?
With regards to the topic I obviously cannot say with certainty whether within all those big hearts here in Canterbury someone would take it upon themselves to get a protest march going to support others in another province but I can say with certainty to date that knowone in any other province has taken it upon themselves to do so. Soon get out there when its our own nest, teacher pay rates, motorbike acc levies etc.
Leftette no fault lines that they know of, tsunami country.
I got work to do, I'll leave it in your hands and keep
a lookout on Campbell to see what you have come up with .....
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Originally posted by iwik View PostDo you think it is not about time fellow New Zealanders banded together, become staunch and stick up
for your Canterbury brothers and sisters ? Grow some balls like our Australian cousins do so readily for one another ?
No doubt you all know the physiological torture many are going through with no end in sight.
Hold insurance companies to ransom or the government or something ?
United We Stand Divided We Fall - why does the average kiwi not get that but aussies do ?
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Although I live in Auckland, I'm from Chch and my immediate family is still there. I spent several months down there a couple of years ago and have seen the devastation for myself. My family is still going through insurance wrangles.
So don't tell that I don't care.
But do tell me just what it is that you think I can do that will make an iota of difference.My blog. From personal experience.
http://statehousinginnz.wordpress.com/
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I have relatives and friends in Christchurch and they have had traumatic experiences.
However stepping aside from the personal, why should any taxpayer (the government) step in to rescue people from one of life's vicissitudes? Earthquakes happen, especially in New Zealand. That is life. It isn't fair and it isn't anybodys fault.
A couple of generations ago noone would have even thought about a government saviour.
My grandfather in 1909 woke up to hear a strong wind. Looking out the window he saw his farm floating past in the largest flood ever seen on the Southland plains.
Nobody rescued him. Because he still owned the land (and we still do today) he went to his bank which charged a usurious rate but lent him enough to buy new animals. He survived but only through his own efforts and it took until about 1960 to get straight. Over 50 years.
Sometimes I despair at our reach for someone else to arrive with instant solutions. Life is not easy.
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Originally posted by iwik View PostDo you think it is not about time fellow New Zealanders banded together, become staunch and stick up
for your Canterbury brothers and sisters ? Grow some balls like our Australian cousins do so readily for one another ?
No doubt you all know the physiological torture many are going through with no end in sight.
Hold insurance companies to ransom or the government or something ?
United We Stand Divided We Fall - why does the average kiwi not get that but aussies do ?
You're doing a good thing by keeping the post quake plight of the people in the public eye.
These days, very little coverage of the events down there is reaching Auckland.
In very general terms, the impression here in Auckland is that there was a huge quake and some later smaller ones, the entire city centre and radiating infrastructure was ruined. On-going smaller quakes are happening. Aftershocks are a fact of life now and people are getting used to them.
The city has been discovered to have been built on bad ground and the type of buildings built by the early settlers were not suitable.
Insurance wrangles are still on-going, and iconic structures are lost.
Some flooding has occurred lately due to the new ground levels possibly.
Slowly but surely the city is being rebuilt, but the character will probably be mostly lost due to the loss of many gothic type structures.
My general take on it is that it took 150 years to build the place - when it was thought to be on solid ground, there's no telling how long it will take to rebuild with the new challenges.
Insurance companies can only do so much against the forces of nature, and you can be sure that they will try and do as little as possible, although they are basically bound to keep to their contracts
Everyone everywhere has huge problems getting insurance companies to pay out.
Nature rules supreme, we forget that, the wise keep surplus at hand and don't use up all their resources on growth, in anticipation of mother nature's inevitable knock at the door.
What sort of issues are still on-going there?
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