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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLoo View Post
    I'm surprised St John get away with calling themselves a charity. As far as I can tell they do nothing without getting paid.
    Maybe a little unfair - we (Lions) use their disability shuttle for a day at an event we have and they do that fo nothing. We provide a donation but that is always afetr the event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne View Post
    Maybe a little unfair - we (Lions) use their disability shuttle for a day at an event we have and they do that fo nothing. We provide a donation but that is always afetr the event.

    Youre lucky, community trolley derby here was quoted $250 an hour, minimum five hours, to have them attend a two hour kids event.

    They complain of being used as a taxi but I don't know of any taxi who would charge $65 for four ks like St John charged my cousin.

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    Just after writing that got a visit from a friend who ended up in Wanganui hospital, they didn't kill him but tried to discharge him at 10pm. Ride home with St John was going to be $700. 87km ride.

    Charitable much?

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    Yeah I must say a bill I received from St John came as a bit of a shock. The way it was pursued was overly aggressive too IMO.

    Ironically my ride in the helicopter was free. Guess where my donation dollars go first????

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    I too support chosen charities and recognise that its impossible to know quite how efficent they are. And how effective my donations are. But its easy to be cynical at which point you close the door and that is not my character.

    I've supported the SPCA (life member), World Vision, the Blind Foundation, and First Church Invercargill for 25 years. I'm also a trustee for various charities and former chair of Habitat For Humanity, Invercargill. Went on a voluntary project to India a few years ago at my own cost. Excellent and worth doing if you'd like an interesting trip overseas.

    I also volunteer at Habitat's charity shop which is enjoyable and nicely dovetails with my Scottish ethic of reusing furniture clothing etc for other people to benefit. Waste not want not.
    Last edited by Winston001; 03-05-2013 at 10:55 PM.

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    I do. Not to charities, but individual sick children. It is a lot of groups online with volunteers-people like us, who dedicate their time for free to help people. I know that my money are going to a child directly. I know it is a lot of con artist in charity groups, but I work with recognized one. I only wish I had more free money to help...

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    Yes, but normally always to support a friend who is doing an event (marathon, big walk etc), with proceeds to their chosen charity.
    My only direct contribution is to Sea Shepherd, who do a fine job at winding up the Japanese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auckland investor View Post

    Personally I never give to charity. Most of them are big multinational corporations so I'm not even sure where the money goes.
    I think everyone including you gives to charity.Most of the time we give informally/not to organizations.That doesn't mean we are not charitable.Even when we give to needy friends or family members, i think that is charity.
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    I have a regular donation set up to Greenpeace, and I donate during collection drives for Women's Refuge, most mental health organisations, and the Breast Cancer Foundation. I give to the AIDS Foundation, anything targeted at preventing youth suicide, and anything targeted at helping gay youth. SPCA as and when I can, and Poppy Day annually. An annoying collector changes my mind - I won't support someone who isn't good at their job.

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    I'm surprised St John get away with calling themselves a charity. As far as I can tell they do nothing without getting paid


    The thing with St John is that they are mostly run by volunteers, esp in rural communities. They may have one paid person and the rest are volunteers. Yet the need to run the ambulances, keep them stocked with supplies, provide regular training for employed staff and the volunteers, etc. A large percentage of their calls are ridiculous. A kid has an asthma attack, it's raining outside and the mother doesn't want to run to the doctor/pharmacy so what does she do? Call the ambo. Others call for minor cuts, sprains, breaks, etc, head colds, etc. Seriously!
    So, yes, they tried to recoup at some SOME of their expenses. Why shouldn't they?

    Personally, I like to contribute $ to micro-financing organisations like Kiva. They help people out who couldn't otherwise get loans to grow their business, education or whatever. Rather than giving them a handout, they are given a loan. As the loans are repaid, I can relend to someone else - so it keeps my money revolving, I help out more people - and they are given a sense of pride and independence rather than creating an expectation of dependency or hopelessness.

    I've also started helping a family that I befriended on a small island in Indonesia a few years ago. I see them helping themselves to improve their financial situation so I'm happy to help out in a small way in especially where the money is going to help educate the kids. I like the idea of helping someone directly and cutting out the middle man who siphon off a large percentage of what you give them.

    I won't give to door collectors or street collectors as a rule. Don't trust them!
    Last edited by BusyLizzy; 09-05-2013 at 04:56 PM.
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