• Login:
Welcome, Register Here
follow PropertyTalk on facebook follow PropertyTalk on twitter Newsletter follow PropertyTalk on LinkedIn follow PropertyTalk on facebook
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
Results 11 to 19 of 19
  1. #11
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    359

    Default

    Why is this the landlords problem? If the house is secure, trees are trimmed back, an alarm installed etc, then why is a burglary grounds for ending a tenancy? Unless possibly you can't get insurance anymore?

    That said, If i was you, I'd speak to the landlord and voice your concerns. He may be happy to let you go as he can probably raise the rent given the current market.

  2. #12

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Leelay View Post
    Sorry I dont understand, why would the LL lose at the tribunal? Its not his fault that the property has been targeted just looking for clarification as someone very new to all this how the landlord could be held accountable?
    After the adjudicator has consulted the patterns from the freshly scattered bones of two dead cats, the alignments of the stars past Jupiter and the tea leaves of both parties, he/she will most likely ignore anything the LL has said and find in favour of the tenant no matter how ridiculous their story may be. The Kangaroo Kourt, sorry I mean Tenancy Tribunal, is heavily weighted in the tenants favour. Though I may be a little biased. ;-P

    But seriously, no mater what the conditions of any tenancy contract things can change and if the sob story pulls the right heart strings the adjudicator can find in favour of whoever. Though I would hope that it would only get to this point if the LL was somehow negligent in taking their tenants safety seriously.
    Last edited by Learning; 03-04-2013 at 07:00 PM.

  3. #13

    Default

    Going back to my earlier question, what are you doing to make sure you are not a target again? It is terribly unfortunate that you have been a victim of a burglar but is it a valid reason to move? What is stopping you from being burgled at the next residence? If you owned the house would you sell it because of this?

    Yes there are things the LL can do, such as installing an alarm but there are also a number of wireless alarm systems out there you could install yourself.

  4. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Whangarei
    Posts
    5,867

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Leelay View Post
    Sorry I dont understand, why would the LL lose at the tribunal? Its not his fault that the property has been targeted just looking for clarification as someone very new to all this how the landlord could be held accountable?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gladdynook View Post
    Why is this the landlords problem? If the house is secure, trees are trimmed back, an alarm installed etc, then why is a burglary grounds for ending a tenancy?
    I'm guessing you two haven't been to tribunal many times? "Learning" has pretty much summed up what I would say. My guess is that the landlord would get 3 weeks notice at best.

  5. #15

    Default Ask yourself what might attract a burglar?

    Have you spoken to the landlord and what is the approach to fix a problem permanently? What are the weak entry points, blocked views, etc?
    Running away might or might not resolve your problem as thieves are opportunists and screen other properties too.
    We as LL uses a mobiles video surveillance system to reinstate trust until weak security has been improved.
    In one case party-goers in the neighbourhood caused a lot of nonsense and a security cam with infra-red light (night vision) for the drive way resolved the issue. Ask yourself what might attract a burglar?

  6. #16
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    21

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by klauster View Post
    Have you spoken to the landlord and what is the approach to fix a problem permanently? What are the weak entry points, blocked views, etc?
    Running away might or might not resolve your problem as thieves are opportunists and screen other properties too.
    We as LL uses a mobiles video surveillance system to reinstate trust until weak security has been improved.
    In one case party-goers in the neighbourhood caused a lot of nonsense and a security cam with infra-red light (night vision) for the drive way resolved the issue. Ask yourself – what might attract a burglar?
    Thank you all for your suggestions/ guidance.

    Most of those here who are busy analysing gain/loss probably have never had a break in, so I agree it is difficult for them to understand the stress of living in a house one is so vulnerable in.
    To answer few of your questions:
    1)LL has still not glazed the smashed window (after 5 days), it is boarded with wooden planks.
    2) House has numerous ranch sliders (3) with only mechanical flimsy locks. His only suggestion is to jam them with wooden sticks
    3) windows have simple handle fasteners with glass panel ventilators on top. can not change them
    4) There is a dark shady canopy of trees at the back where someone can hide for days without getting noticed. Trees can not be removed.
    To top it all,
    Property is a unit in same compound as another unit. LL seems to chose the worse tenants he can get for it. Drunks, lunatics, drug addicts, you get it.

    I rest my case.

  7. #17
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Turkey/NZ
    Posts
    1,821

    Default

    ^
    Apart from #1 of course, I am guessing all of those other "things/issues" (ranch sliders, windows, trees, neighbours) have been present in the last 1.5 years you have been at the property? Now that the 2 burglaries have occurred, your views on them have changed.

    I think the LL is being lazy/inept by not replacing the window already. The other things can be quite normal for a lot of properties (a number of mine have the same sliding door & windows as you describe).

    If your objective is to leave the property, then I would put an application into the TT for early termination of the Fixed Term contract. Forget all of the reasons you are coming up with above and don't focus on the LL.
    Just make the application and simply say you now feel very unsafe in the house and you need to leave.

    I would be stunned if an adjudicator didn't grant you early release.

  8. #18
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    427

    Default

    Speak to your landlord about it. You have been good tenants I'm assuming, if you can just explain what has happened and how you feel unsafe and I would think he would be fair enough to either let you go or allow you to go providing you stay until it is retenanted.

    At the end of the day an alarm doesn't do a heck of a lot unless you have neighbours who are proactive. I've lived in neighbourhoods where an alarm goes off and we just think its a cat or something. Maybe just best to make a move somewhere else if your landlord doesn't allow you reasonable options for moving out then request they put in lots of things to minimize the risk of a break in. Eg: alarm system, security doors, security locks on windows, pad locks on gates, extra outside lights etc.

  9. #19
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    445

    Default

    I am sorry about burglaries. I understand that it a terrifying experience. I suggest you to talk to your LL. Have you also thought about asking him to install an alarm system?


 

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Ending fixed term tenancy (all tenants agree except 1)
    By TomW in forum Property Management
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 31-07-2016, 09:53 PM
  2. Replies: 9
    Last Post: 30-01-2015, 10:28 PM
  3. Nightmare teenage tenants plus a fixed term tenancy
    By newz2013 in forum Property Investment (NZ)
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 12-07-2013, 02:31 PM
  4. Replies: 8
    Last Post: 09-02-2013, 10:28 AM
  5. Tenants on a fixed term move in/out once bond is lodged (winz)
    By geewhizzed in forum Tenant Stuff (NZ)
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 18-06-2011, 01:28 PM
  6. Fixed Term Tenancy
    By flyernzl in forum Tenant Stuff (NZ)
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 27-01-2011, 11:56 AM
  7. Getting out of Fixed term tenancy
    By sandaz in forum Tenant Stuff (NZ)
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: 19-04-2009, 09:37 PM
  8. Getting rid of fixed term
    By jane in forum Tenant Stuff (NZ)
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 01-12-2008, 10:08 PM
  9. Tenants wanting to terminate fixed-term lease 3 months early.
    By johnnyschnitzel in forum Tenant Stuff (NZ)
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 13-09-2007, 12:13 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •