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    Quote Originally Posted by sidinz View Post
    Also, did the PM find the tenant and perform sufficient background checks?
    Ask any landlord and this is a hard one to quantify. It's a mix of fact (checks on history, references etc) and a portion of gut feel.


    Quote Originally Posted by sidinz View Post
    The way I see it, a PM's duty is to do a pre-tenancy inspection and document any pre-existing damage. Then during regular inspections, note any further damage and either make the tenant rectify, or, if the damage is serious and ongoing, kick them out.
    If they haven't done this, they're negligent, and I would say, culpable, because if they'd been on the ball, it would have prevented much of the damage being done.
    This would be far easier to pull them up on. It should all be documented (or not) as to whether these basic tasks were performed.

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    what does the contract look like
    This of course begs the question--How does one protect ones self from this sort of thing?
    You can write lots of things into the contract for tenants,but what about the managers?
    We obviously need a clear set of responsibilities in that area as well.

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    Keys-why should they keep the name to themselves?
    Is there recourse to a forum name?
    It would be an easy choice choosing a PM in Christchurch,but it would be good to have a bit of protection against the dodgy ones,and this one seems to fit the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skid View Post
    Keys-why should they keep the name to themselves?
    Quote Originally Posted by Satyamurt
    They have lied through their back teeth
    I suggest that is a statement which could cause PT many dollars in court costs if they were named.

    Also, it breaks the PT rules as far as I know them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skid View Post
    Keys-why should they keep the name to themselves?
    Unless the case is already in the public domain, then libel remains a possibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by skid View Post
    Is there recourse to a forum name?
    Probably not to an anonymous poster, but possibly to PropertyTalk itself - enough said.

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    A bad PM list sounds like a wonderful idea as it would serve notice to the cowboys who care little about the owner property or the struggles of owners trying to pay the mortgage.

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    I sympathize with the poster ! As we see more bad PM's taken to court hopefully there will be a mass exodus of these slime balls from the industry which has grown exponentially over the last few years..Much more weeding to be done methinks.

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    I sympathise with the poster ! As we see more bad PM taken to court hopefully there will be a mass exodus of these slime balls from the industry which has grown exponentially over the last few years..More weeding to be done methinks.
    If checks havent been properly done on the tenants by the PM you could sue for negligence. Start by looking on the Tenancy Tribunal files on here and do a database name check. Im presuming you have the tenants information that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsaneperson View Post
    I sympathise with the poster ! As we see more bad PM taken to court hopefully there will be a mass exodus of these slime balls from the industry which has grown exponentially over the last few years..More weeding to be done methinks.
    If checks havent been properly done on the tenants by the PM you could sue for negligence. Start by looking on the Tenancy Tribunal files on here and do a database name check. Im presuming you have the tenants information that is.
    The real estate industry protects itself well and I am not sure if there will ever be a register to warn the public about bad management companies. Having dealt with one company in Dunedin for a number of years I was unfortunate enough to strike a manager who was really bad. Whilst the guy was a friendly chap he cost me money with his non management of my properties and potentially much more had I not taken become actively involved the management process. So what was I paying for? Rent collection? It certainly appears so.

    So is there a name and shame website? If not there should be as this is the best way of putting bad PM companies out of business and getting an efficient system.

    Given that New Zealand property management companies charge far more than their Australian counterparts one might think that one could get quality management rather than huge profits, but this is a pipe dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by propertysearch View Post
    Given that New Zealand property management companies charge far more than their Australian counterparts one might think that one could get quality management rather than huge profits, but this is a pipe dream.
    Far more? How can Australian property managers make any money? Are they on minimum wage or do they just never spend any time on the property?


 

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