Surely its a tenants responsibility to look at a agreement before signing it. If the time frame was the only thing that changed what reason did the LL give to have another agreement signed? because the LL would not have mentioned the date change or they would have picked it up.. The only way it would be false or misleading was if the LL verbally told them something differently than what was written on the second agreement or else it's the tenants fault for not reading the agreement and they are deemed to have accepted conditions.
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four weeks behind. There would be a bluff run to call the first tenancy terminated.
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Originally posted by Glizzle View PostSays it all.
The figures have been a shady area, as the landlords first email to the tenant claimed they were $2,700 in arrears, then it changed to $1,278 and by the landlords own printout today actually only shows its $756 in arrears. So i think this is a clear indication the landlord has made this personal and their belief about the sexuality being a major role in this to be now true.
They do have the paper work to back this up now that the landlord was so kind dropping this last statement off today. I think now a big mistake the landlord has made is dropping this tenancy statement printout off. Because it clearly shows previous figures he has claimed they owed to be incorrect. I have advised them to keep his email as well informing they owed $2,700. The letter that stated 4 weeks in arrears and now these new figures. Kind of disgusting actually a landlord works in this manner. Its one thing to label a bad tenant but being a property investor with over 80 properties he should be well in the know with respects to how he treats his tenants.Last edited by Grantnz; 02-11-2012, 04:24 PM.
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Yea i understand totally, but you have to remember i'm getting one side of the story and trying to best address that issue by looking at the problem without siding with one party as to give you bias advice.
To me personally i don't care if it was one week or 10 in areas, you're living off that landlord till that debt is cleared, he has every right to dictate who and how he treats them in his personal way, your spending his hard earnt money.
If it was me, i would talk to people about the tribunal path and making sure the lease for 3 years is enforced, and just tell the landlord to and piss off and make sure i never owed money too him again. At Least they have the place for 3 years, who cares the landlord is a dick, just treat him like one.
But going after a landlord you owe money over discrimination purely on the basis of being a gay couple would be something your need to sit down with a lawyer about and i would think very carefully about it as its a serious matter that would require some gross misconduct to of happened to succeed.
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Originally posted by Glizzle View PostYea i understand totally, but you have to remember i'm getting one side of the story and trying to best address that issue by looking at the problem without siding with one party as to give you bias advice.
To me personally i don't care if it was one week or 10 in areas, you're living off that landlord till that debt is cleared, he has every right to dictate who and how he treats them in his personal way, your spending his hard earnt money.
If it was me, i would talk to people about the tribunal path and making sure the lease for 3 years is enforced, and just tell the landlord to and piss off and make sure i never owed him money again. At Least they have the place for 3 years, who cares the landlord is a dick, just treat him like one.
But going after a landlord you own money over discrimination purely on the basis of being a gay couple would be something your need to sit down with a lawyer about and i would think very carefully about it as its a serious matter that would require some gross misconduct to of happened to succeed.
Yeah totally understand what your saying. In respects to the legal issue of sexual discrimination the human rights commission have advised it is a breach in the act. So to tackle this they need to determine if they want to go the landlord with the Tenancy Tribunal for tenancy matters and the sexual discrimination issue, also not lodging their bond either. Or just take it through the Human Rights Commission. Its a messy incident, one they did not want to get into. So i am helping them as much as i can anyway.
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Originally posted by Glizzle View PostIf they won everything in Tribunal surely that would give them grounds to press further with the human rights commission.
They have decided to apply to the tribunal to terminate the tenancy based on the grounds of sexual discrimination. They no longer feel comfortable renting from this man purely based in how he is now acting towards them.
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I think they made the right decision to try and terminate the tenancy.
Goodluck.
BTW I would go with Tribunal.
My experience with the commission is that you need an iron clad case or for the other party to shoot themselves in the foot.
I would just move on with my life, get a better place to rent, seek to start a business elsewhere but that is just me.
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Originally posted by BigRedDog View PostI think they made the right decision to try and terminate the tenancy.
Goodluck.
BTW I would go with Tribunal.
My experience with the commission is that you need an iron clad case or for the other party to shoot themselves in the foot.
I would just move on with my life, get a better place to rent, seek to start a business elsewhere but that is just me.
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Sadly, it probably won't be the last time they will be discriminated against, so it might be best to chalk it to experience, settle their financial affairs with this fool and move on to a better place.
However, that course of action is not mutually exclusive to putting him through the wringer at the Tribunal
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Originally posted by revdev View PostSadly, it probably won't be the last time they will be discriminated against, so it might be best to chalk it to experience, settle their financial affairs with this fool and move on to a better place.
However, that course of action is not mutually exclusive to putting him through the wringer at the Tribunal
Here is what they would like the Tribunal to order:
1.) Termination of the fixed term tenancy.
2.) Exemplary damages for not lodging their bond knowing full well he should have. Especially with the amount of properties he owns.
3.) They would like their bond returned to them
4.) Exemplary damages for discrimination in front of someone they did no know "Directly and indirectly"
5.) Exemplary damages for disclosing their private life style to a property manager they had not met before without their consent, this has caused us a great deal of humiliation and stress and they should not feel like they have committed a crime in being gay.
A Written apology personally from (LL), as asking his property manager to do it on his behalf is not very sincere.
Not sure how it will go for them, but i hope they get something out of the pig of a landlord that needs to come out of the dark ages. Maybe this will teach him to keep his opinions and comments to himself in the future.Last edited by Grantnz; 03-11-2012, 08:29 PM.
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Originally posted by Grantnz View PostHere is what they would like the Tribunal to order:
1.) Termination of the fixed term tenancy. Due to them no longer feeling safe renting from (LL) anymore.
2.) Exemplary damages for not lodging their bond knowing full well he should have. Especially with the amount of properties he owns.
3.) They would like their bond returned to them
4.) Exemplary damages for discrimination in front of someone they did no know "Directly and indirectly"
5.) Exemplary damages for disclosing their private life style to a property manager they had not met before without their consent, this has caused us a great deal of humiliation and stress and they should not feel like they have committed a crime in being gay.
A Written apology personally from (LL), as asking his property manager to do it on his behalf is not very sincere.
2) Yip
3) Yip
4) Yip
5) The Tribunal has no power to order this.
Don't hold your breath on the apology.
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