Warrant of Fitness for rentals (including details)

[jimO]

And nudge housing affordability
as they go.

they arnt affordable now, if it wasnt for the students most of the old dumps wouldnt be able to be rented at all, no family would ever rent a falling down old pile of poos for $700 a week

[Perry]

I was speaking generally. The act of removing a lot
of what you describe as 'student hovels' will reduce
the market pool. That will put pressure on prices.
Supply and demand at work, with the usual govt.
meddling pushing it all along to howls of dismay
from all the sitting pretty social engineers, et al.

[Maccachic]

Why don't they just tell the people living in these places they can't rent them any more and they have to pay more for a better quality place - will = the same situation.

[Maccachic]

they arnt affordable now, if it wasnt for the students most of the old dumps wouldnt be able to be rented at all, no family would ever rent a falling down old pile of poos for $700 a week

Market rent = what the market is willing to pay so they must be affordable. There is some $$ built into those rents for repairs.

Jimo how about you provide affordable housing for students, you can lead the charge...

[Wayne]

I do agree that there should be good quality rentals and I think most of us have those but the olda adage 'buyer beware" could equally apply to renter beware - if they are not happy just move somewhere else.

Rather than renter beware I was thinking horses for courses.
I think there has been discussion on this before but every
property should meet some minimum standard of healthiness
(ie not kill the tenant) but after that it is horses for courses.
Some people don't have much money so they can't expect
to rent a 'flash' place for that.

If you were to up the standard too much (all houses with
full insulation, heating, sun and breakfast in bed) then either
the rents go up too much or the house are sold to a private
buyer and removed from the rental pool.

At the end of the day you can't expect a private individual to
subsidise the tenant any more than they do now.

[NovInvestor]

question is who is going to enforce it?

and how to enforce it? inspecting every property available for rent to make sure the place is compliant is a huge task.

[Perry]

If you were to up the standard too much (all houses with
full insulation, heating, sun and breakfast in bed) then either
the rents go up too much or the house are sold to a private
buyer and removed from the rental pool.

But who is going to buy all those ex-rentals? There's
a housing affordability crisis, remember.

Question is who is going to enforce it and how to enforce it?
Inspecting every property available for rent to make sure the
place is compliant is a huge task.

Confronting a 'huge task' has never deterred gummints in the
past. Amend the RTA to make it illegal to rent anything that
does not have a RWoF and force all LLs to get one from said
gummint and pay the gummint for it, too, of course. Annual
renewal fees, administration fees, inspection fees - all with
GST added, of course. Blenglish will be rubbing his grubby
maulers together with gleeful anticipation. But . . .

Probably more a socialist-type gummint thing than the gnats.
But the gnats probably wouldn't reverse it, afterwards. Just
say they would, while in opposition, as an election ploy.

[Maccachic]

question is who is going to enforce it?

and how to enforce it? inspecting every property available for rent to make sure the place is compliant is a huge task.

Just like they do with commercials a building warrent of fittness every year $$$ + GST

[NovInvestor]

Tenant will be paying in the end.

[NovInvestor]

Just like they do with commercials a building warrent of fittness every year $$$ + GST

So with all the earthquake retrofits required for earthquake prone buildings, when will that form part of the warrant of fitness??

[speights boy]

Tenant will be paying in the end.

Quite true of course.
But without wage increases; problems for landlords will also probably increase

[Wayne]

Just like they do with commercials a building warrent of fittness every year $$$ + GST

Not only do you pay someone to do the inspection then you have to pay the council to file it. Then the council decide that they should perform annual audits of the annual WOF and charge for that also (almost as much as the WOF in the 1st place).

[klauster]

Understood the intention to raise housing standards in NZ, but why do they treat owner occupied housing and rentals differently?

[speights boy]

^ Do you mean like the council and the health department keeping an eye on restaurants and takeaway outlets, but not inspecting your own kitchen at home?

[jimO]

Jimo how about you provide affordable housing for students, you can lead the charge...

im already providing free housing for the elderly