Sleepout Buyers Beware!

[Letterman]

These guys took me and my family for $23,500 - steer well clear of Grant King & NZ Sleepouts. Go to www.nzsleepouts.com for the backstory.

Steve Taylor

[drelly]

Moral of the story: never piss off a web designer LOL

[spaceman]

I heard Drelly smells and his mother dresses him funny.......

Cheers
Spaceman

[drelly]

I heard Drelly smells and his mother dresses him funny.......

Ha! I would do the same thing in Steve's situation In fact, I was getting some crank calls on my 0800 number... found the caller was using a mobile phone... it's amazing how many things you can subscribe someone to online with a mobile number.

[Letterman]

Hi Drelly,

Thanks for your feedback. It looks like Grant King has built around 40 sleepouts to date (many it appears in the West Auckland and Rodney areas), all without permits and / or resource consent http://nzsleepouts.com/2011/12/21/au...ets-it-in-one/

What is really quite astonishing is that I have repeatedly informed Trade Me of this action, and they are still continuing to host the ads of NZ Sleepouts http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=430951962 although there have been no attempts to list the sale of Sleepouts by Swale Earthmovers or NZ Sleepouts since the website went live.

[drelly]

Is he aware of your website?

[Letterman]

Yes, he is, as is Trade Me; The Auckland Council; every building, kitchen, and bathroom supply company in the Helensville area; Swale Earthmovers; and Kiwibank, the bank that Grant King banks at, who have alerted their own fraud investigation team about this issue (which apparently triggers a fraud alert to all banks, accordng to my Business Banking Manager)....oh, and the 241 media contacts I have in my business database that I will shortly be sending a full press release to. I gave Grant King, NZ Sleepouts, and Swale Earthmovers an opportunity to be reasonable, and requested a refund due to the multiple breaches of contract - they refused, and called my bluff. Bluff called then.

[TheLiberalLeft]

Good on you, Letterman.

If he doesn't already know, make him also aware of this posting and PT in general. A lot of LL's here are sitting-duck targets for his business and lots build sleepouts as a way of adding income to existing property.

I'm in Rodney and have seen their advertisements and was considering something similar. The key word there is "was".

[spaceman]

Ha! I would do the same thing in Steve's situation In fact, I was getting some crank calls on my 0800 number... found the caller was using a mobile phone... it's amazing how many things you can subscribe someone to online with a mobile number.

Sweet....well played sir I salute you.

Having people you don't like, contact details (address, email, mob, phone etc etc) is so much fun

Cheers
Spaceman

[klauster]

Good on you – standing up for consumer’s rights
Good luck and a successful 2012

[Letterman]

Hi Liberalleft,

Thanks for the tip - Will Do.

Thanks Spaceman & Klauster.

[Bob Kane]

I'm on holiday so I haven't read through your situation in depth but is this what happened?
1. You paid Grant King $23,500
2. Grant gave you nothing.
Grant seems to be a crook if that is the case.

[jaxy]

I don't think trademe are interested in any fraud. They would prefer to collect listing fees & leave the police to worry about the fraud

[One]

No, trademe do care about fraud. Their entire business model depends on people trusting it's safe to buy through trademe.

[Letterman]

Hi Bob, Yes, that is correct - here is a couple of links that perhaps illustrate your summary well:

http://nzsleepouts.com/about/

http://nzsleepouts.com/2011/12/19/what-grant-king-of-nz-sleepouts-promised-verses-what-we-actually-got-for-23500-00/