Who will be the next Labour leader?

[Perry]

Borg's a heretic! And boy,
do we need more of them!

[eri]

oh the pain of being right

when everyone else is wrong

Osborne has pushed a number of American-style ‘wedge issues’, designed to split the Labour leadership from sections of its electoral support.

One of these is the benefits cap that he announced at the first post-election Tory conference.

Osborne declared that it would mean that ‘no family on out-of-work benefits will get more than the average family gets by going out to work’.

This will save money, but it will also, he hopes, tap into the public’s anger at the standard of living enjoyed by some of those who don’t work.
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The trap was hardly concealed, but Labour still walked into it.

They voted against the bill, saying they were for a cap in principle, just against this one.

But there’s no getting away from the fact that they have now voted repeatedly against a measure backed by two thirds of their supporters.
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The public gives leaders of the opposition seconds, not minutes, to explain themselves. http://www.spectator.co.uk/politics/...miliband.thtml

[Bob Kane]

David Shearer will be gone by Queens Birthday weekend.
Who will be the next Labour leader?

[eri]

if we follow the ozzie model

cunliffe? for a bit until the troops rebel as no one likes him and he gets booted

then shearer again for a bit until

everyone finally realizes he's so silent because he wants to drag labour back to the center

at which stage the unionists will demand he goes...

by which time another 10% of trad. labour voters will have would have switched to the greens

meaning the nz labour is finished

at least for the next election

[Bob Kane]

Perhaps a fight between David Cunliffe and Grant Robertson?

[Perry]

Maybe it's time to ask a different
question? What's left to lead?

[donna]

John Banks should be gone too for not disclosing the donors (Dotcom and Skycity)...and he could get a jail term too. Source

Re. Labour Leadership what about that Andrew Little chap?

Cheers,

Donna

[Bob Kane]

Re. Labour Leadership ....

I don't suppose anyone outside of Labour really cares these days.
It's like debating which horse will finish 6th in the Melbourne Cup.

[eri]

Labour will continue to suffer as long as their caucus

'continues to show all the discipline and budgetary skills of a free form jazz collective

and not a government in waiting'.

http://gonzofreakpower.blogspot.co.n...r-is-nigh.html

Shearer needs someone – be it his new office manager or some other functionary – to do Heather Simpson’s old “H2” job of keeping order and administering tough love to various caucus members on the leader’s behalf... I’ll bet no one remotely scary has been to ask Cunliffe what the hell he thought he was doing making his own State of the Nation address. Suffice it to say, he’d have found parts of his anatomy detachable had he tried this under Clark.

[eri]

poor old shearer

to be shafted

by the left

for being too centrist

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10847038

'He's got about 20 minutes to convince a disillusioned party faithful that he's not invisible, hasn't got a speech impediment - and that he's got a cunning plan to convince the voters that Labour can deliver a costed, credible alternative to National-omics'. So no pressure then

[Perry]

There does not seem to be any left, right or centre,
any more. Rather, it's all just a hazy blur, such that
the coin looks much the same, on both sides.

[eri]

there are 2 sides

1 says, "give me your money"

the other says, "get it yourself"

[eri]

One of the credibility problems for the Labour Party is that the party membership is considerably to the left of both David Cunliffe and David Shearer

http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/20...arty-ructions/

[donna]

It's a bit of a worry that come election time Labour may cross the line. I just can not see David Shearer as the PM - he needs to be working with Helen at the UN.

cheers,

Donna

[drelly]

I think Cunliffe is a National Party spy who is doing his best to send Labour into the abyss. Did you hear the whole "we're giving more power to our members" thing? THAT's the main problem when they're in Government... rule by the ignorant, greedy masses!