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    Caught a glimpse of the two Davids on the 6pm news.
    Shearer appeared incompetent and a dumb bugger.
    Fortunately that's not a handicap in the Labour party.
    Cunliffe will win easily (at this stage - his faults are still hidden) and lead Labour to a loss in 2014.
    So Key will rule until 2017.

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    I think Shearer has better public appeal and personality than Cunliffe but he seems hopelessly politically inexperienced. Cunliffe will win and National will be in Govmint forever more!

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    labour will eventually choose the right leader

    after they have explored all other options

    this is because the left, like most bureaucracies, prefers seniority

    over talent

    they have a reflexive distrust of the desires of the electorate

    we are all just children to them

    to be educated

    not listened too

    hence the nanny state
    have you defeated them?
    your demons

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    - David Cunliffe says his first priority as a leader will be to 'reunite the caucus."

    like i give a sh%t about them...

    He promises "significant modernisation" of the party, saying it had to earn the confidence of New Zealanders again and reach out to provincial and rural areas.

    of course it has to reach out , with open hand, to rural areas, that's where the money/exporters are....

    His rival David Shearer also promises to renew the party, saying its success hinged on its ability to build and keep deep connections with New Zealanders.

    "And if we are honest, we have to accept some of our connections to communities have frayed over time, and we need to renew them. We need to act urgently to rebuild, and especially in places where New Zealand deserted us in huge numbers at the last election."He said businesses as well as those at the bottom end of the gap between the rich and the poor should all be able to look to Labour as the party that would help them prosper. Labour's core philosophy was "opportunity for all""We must not budge from this and under my leadership we will not."

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/n...ectid=10771347

    so we can see who the "party man" is

    and his priorities...

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    I'm not happy.
    Shearer just might win it.
    Bugger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by essence View Post
    The rot started under Helen Clarke, when they became too intrusive into people's every day lives when they tried to legislate the water flow on shower heads. There's a couple of other instances but at the moment they elude me.
    Light bulbs, essence, light bulbs.
    And same-sex marriages - they made them optional but were soon to be mandatory.

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    "It's quite obvious that a big part of the reason that he won is simply by the fact that he is not David Cunliffe. That's a bit of a negative reason to be elected."

    Dr Edwards felt the election of Grant Robertson as Mr Shearer's deputy may prove to be the more significant decision.
    "In this contest it is him that has been outshining all the other contenders for both the leadership and the deputy. There will be an ongoing discussion that whenever Shearer falters, whenever he trips, there will be discussion maybe Grant Robertson should be leader. Is it just a matter of time before Shearer is rolled by Grant Robertson?"

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/n...ectid=10772962
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    It seems the Labour caucus were listening.
    Let's hope they noticed the proposed Capital Gains Tax wasn't the vote-winner they expected it to be.

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    leading with their head

    not with their heart

    steps to success
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    the shearer

    standing up for the shorn

    "Not a vision to help 157,000 unemployed New Zealanders into productive employment so they can pay taxes."

    dangerous man, staking out the middle ground like that

    the nats better grow the economy


    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...Labours-leader
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